RE: If free will was not real
August 17, 2016 at 6:06 pm
(This post was last modified: August 17, 2016 at 6:06 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 17, 2016 at 6:02 pm)Gemini Wrote:(August 17, 2016 at 5:57 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Again with the skyhook. The reasons -are- duress, or at least they seem to be. You say they don't compel your actions in the same way...but I'm not sure what that means, you -must- have an adequate description to claim it, and from your own comments they do -appear- to compel your decisions. When it's too easy, that's the first hint of a problem.
(if it were that easy to establish free will we wouldn;t be having this discussion)
The reasons aren't duress if they don't originate from an agent. I think that's the key point in our difference. Yes, the constraints of physics determine my decisions. But since I myself am a physical process, constrained by natural law, I don't consider the constraints of physics to be duress. Only if they are imposed by some other agent would I consider that.
Dont they all...aren't you an agent? Before it was duress, but now it's agency, and particularly external? The goalposts are shifting...and still the question remains. Are you -not- under duress from external "agents" every single day of your life? What, exactly, are you making decisions -about-?
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