RE: If free will was not real
August 18, 2016 at 12:21 am
(This post was last modified: August 18, 2016 at 12:45 am by The Grand Nudger.)
I think all we've got, in a logical discussion, are the black and white rules of inference, amigo.
I'm not arguing against the self, and it would't matter if I were...because that's an appeal to consequences. Nor am I arguing for the universe as a diety...and on that count, your comments have entered loon territory and aren't worth the time.
Is this it, is this all? Is it any wonder I don't believe in free will, you're not even trying. Too busy bitching about whatever it is you think my position must be. Too busy shifting the burden of proof. I've responded to -others- arguments for their propositions, I haven't offered an argument against free will, and there's no need for me to do so. Perhaps you should read the thread?
I'm not arguing against the self, and it would't matter if I were...because that's an appeal to consequences. Nor am I arguing for the universe as a diety...and on that count, your comments have entered loon territory and aren't worth the time.
Is this it, is this all? Is it any wonder I don't believe in free will, you're not even trying. Too busy bitching about whatever it is you think my position must be. Too busy shifting the burden of proof. I've responded to -others- arguments for their propositions, I haven't offered an argument against free will, and there's no need for me to do so. Perhaps you should read the thread?
Quote:Your position is that however I feel about it, we know enough about the physical reality of the universe to know that the sense of freedom cannot represent truth, at least in an ultimate sense.No, lol, my position, in this thread...has been that the various descriptions offered of the free will claimed to exist and be possessed by the claimants are irrational and woefully lacking in any demonstration thereof. I'm really not sure what I'm supposed to do with them...nor can I work out why you feel compelled to respond in the manner that you have. Was that freely willed...presented with the free choice of manufacturing a better description or argument....and all of that shit up above...did you freely choose one over the other, or were you limited, constrained, coerced or under duress such that you took the approach that you did as if you were simple bio-automata?
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