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If free will was not real
RE: If free will was not real
(August 21, 2016 at 5:54 pm)Gemini Wrote: I think you know that referencing experts to support one's claims isn't an appeal to authority. And this was direct response to the skepticism you expressed in post #479 as to whether frontal lobes grant the property of human will.
You doin;t reference the experts -to establish your claim- you referencied a popularizing artcile that uses the same words, that was -about- people studying something that they do not, themselves, establish or even attempt to establish as "free" in any more than the colloquial sense.  

Quote:Pendantic enough to distinguish between the stipulative freedom of compatibilism and the contra-causal freedom of libertarianism. All you're saying is that our way of defining "free will" is different than the way libertarians define it. True, that. So what?
So what, indeed.  

Quote:That's what legalism gets us. Kicking people to death instead of shooting them. Hooray for rules of engagement. War is hell, there's no denying it and no avoiding it, as long as someone out there is itching to wage one.
Then maybe pointing to legalism (as you have) as an avenue for free will isn't such a good idea either? I wouldn;t make such an argument (as an argument to consequence) but obviously it resonates with you...   Wink

Quote:Being free from duress/coercion is a real property that human beings can have. To define language in such way as to permit distinctions that obtain on a regular basis (having legal autonomy vs. not having legal autonomy) rather than defining freedom of the will in terms of something that is at best a speculative plausibility and at worst incoherent is hardly a semantic game of hide and seek. It's just good linguistics.

You -aren't- free from duress or coercion.  You are sometimes free from some kinds of duress or coercion...and that's being -incredibly- generous and not strictly factual. It's good linguistics, agreed, but bad logic. I'm not looking for a way to -say- we have free will...I can do that, it's trivially easy to do that...and I;m two hairs away from a chimpanzee. I'm looking for some -actual- free will.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 2:40 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:05 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Excited Penguin - July 9, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:06 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:08 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Excited Penguin - July 9, 2016 at 12:55 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Banjo - August 1, 2016 at 4:28 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by quip - August 1, 2016 at 5:01 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:10 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:14 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:16 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:16 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:12 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:12 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:23 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:24 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:26 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:26 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:28 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:29 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:27 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:33 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:35 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:39 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:41 am
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RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:43 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:47 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:48 am
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RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:49 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:55 am
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RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 4:01 am
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RE: If free will was not real - by Excited Penguin - July 9, 2016 at 1:07 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 9, 2016 at 1:14 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 16, 2016 at 1:20 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 16, 2016 at 1:25 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 16, 2016 at 1:26 am
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RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 16, 2016 at 1:28 am
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RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - July 16, 2016 at 8:32 am
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RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2016 at 5:42 pm
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RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2016 at 5:48 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Grandizer - August 17, 2016 at 6:00 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2016 at 5:57 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 17, 2016 at 6:02 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2016 at 6:04 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Grandizer - August 17, 2016 at 6:11 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2016 at 6:06 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 18, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2016 at 6:12 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2016 at 6:13 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 17, 2016 at 7:24 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2016 at 7:47 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 17, 2016 at 8:17 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2016 at 8:31 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 17, 2016 at 11:16 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2016 at 12:21 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 18, 2016 at 1:14 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 18, 2016 at 1:25 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2016 at 1:24 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 18, 2016 at 1:25 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 18, 2016 at 1:27 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 18, 2016 at 1:30 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2016 at 1:27 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 18, 2016 at 1:31 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 18, 2016 at 4:44 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:10 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 7:32 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 10:38 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 18, 2016 at 1:34 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2016 at 1:52 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 18, 2016 at 1:55 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2016 at 1:59 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 18, 2016 at 2:00 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2016 at 2:43 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 18, 2016 at 2:45 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2016 at 6:01 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 19, 2016 at 6:32 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2016 at 7:08 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 19, 2016 at 6:06 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2016 at 6:16 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 19, 2016 at 6:45 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2016 at 6:54 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 19, 2016 at 7:36 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2016 at 7:52 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 19, 2016 at 8:41 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 12:48 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 11:44 am
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 20, 2016 at 2:49 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:15 am
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 20, 2016 at 3:44 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 7:54 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 10:47 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 11:29 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 11:51 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 1:30 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 1:43 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 2:20 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 2:29 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 2:42 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:05 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 3:40 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:46 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 4:08 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 4:35 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 4:44 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 5:04 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 5:19 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 11:50 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 12:11 am
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 21, 2016 at 12:21 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 21, 2016 at 5:20 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 6:27 am
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 20, 2016 at 7:25 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 10:37 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 8:18 am
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 20, 2016 at 8:31 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 8:34 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 11:49 am
RE: If free will was not real - by deleteduser12345 - August 20, 2016 at 12:21 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 12:32 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by deleteduser12345 - August 20, 2016 at 1:03 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 1:34 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by deleteduser12345 - August 20, 2016 at 1:54 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 2:02 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by deleteduser12345 - August 20, 2016 at 2:43 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 2:49 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by deleteduser12345 - August 20, 2016 at 3:03 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:08 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by deleteduser12345 - August 20, 2016 at 3:12 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:23 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by deleteduser12345 - August 20, 2016 at 3:51 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:58 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 3:14 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by deleteduser12345 - August 20, 2016 at 3:23 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 3:44 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by deleteduser12345 - August 20, 2016 at 3:56 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by deleteduser12345 - August 20, 2016 at 4:41 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 4:47 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by deleteduser12345 - August 20, 2016 at 4:49 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 5:08 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 5:21 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 5:25 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:06 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by deleteduser12345 - August 20, 2016 at 3:10 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:20 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 8:42 am
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 20, 2016 at 9:32 am
RE: If free will was not real - by deleteduser12345 - August 20, 2016 at 9:38 am
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 20, 2016 at 10:23 am
RE: If free will was not real - by deleteduser12345 - August 20, 2016 at 10:54 am
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 20, 2016 at 11:19 am
RE: If free will was not real - by deleteduser12345 - August 20, 2016 at 11:34 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 10:31 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 10:47 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 11:18 am
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 20, 2016 at 11:24 am
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 20, 2016 at 7:08 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 11:32 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 11:38 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 11:58 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 12:28 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 12:07 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 12:36 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 12:48 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Whateverist - August 20, 2016 at 12:21 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 12:37 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 1:01 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 1:09 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 12:47 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 1:20 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 1:53 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 1:38 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 1:50 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 2:01 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 1:58 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 2:33 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 2:06 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 2:31 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:57 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by deleteduser12345 - August 20, 2016 at 3:58 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:58 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by deleteduser12345 - August 20, 2016 at 4:06 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by deleteduser12345 - August 20, 2016 at 4:06 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 4:08 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by deleteduser12345 - August 20, 2016 at 4:14 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 4:15 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 4:48 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by deleteduser12345 - August 20, 2016 at 4:50 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 4:50 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by J a c k - August 20, 2016 at 5:58 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 5:59 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Angrboda - August 20, 2016 at 8:00 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 20, 2016 at 10:32 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Arkilogue - August 20, 2016 at 10:40 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 12:05 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 12:14 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 21, 2016 at 6:17 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 12:19 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 12:24 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 12:25 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 12:27 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 12:28 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 12:29 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 12:31 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 12:31 am
RE: If free will was not real - by account_inactive - August 21, 2016 at 12:31 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 12:33 am
RE: If free will was not real - by account_inactive - August 21, 2016 at 12:35 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 12:55 am
RE: If free will was not real - by account_inactive - August 21, 2016 at 12:57 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 12:59 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 12:59 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 12:59 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 1:01 am
RE: If free will was not real - by account_inactive - August 21, 2016 at 1:02 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 1:02 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 1:02 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 1:03 am
RE: If free will was not real - by account_inactive - August 21, 2016 at 1:21 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 1:22 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 1:45 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 1:47 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 1:48 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 9:11 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 21, 2016 at 5:08 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 5:15 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 21, 2016 at 5:32 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 5:37 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 21, 2016 at 5:54 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Angrboda - August 21, 2016 at 7:56 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 21, 2016 at 8:28 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 22, 2016 at 2:22 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 6:13 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 21, 2016 at 7:10 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 7:16 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 21, 2016 at 7:40 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 7:59 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 8:01 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 8:14 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 8:54 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 21, 2016 at 9:03 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Excited Penguin - August 21, 2016 at 8:58 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 9:03 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Excited Penguin - August 21, 2016 at 9:07 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 9:04 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 21, 2016 at 9:04 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 9:09 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 21, 2016 at 9:47 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Aegon - August 21, 2016 at 9:05 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 9:09 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 21, 2016 at 10:18 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 22, 2016 at 2:38 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Excited Penguin - August 21, 2016 at 9:12 pm

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