(May 15, 2011 at 7:41 am)fr0d0 Wrote: @ Kayenneh
I think you're taking my point in the very opposite way to what I intended (missed the first line completely). The soul is also an immediate and essential part of us. The abuse of the concept (the guilt trip), like most things, is people trying to take advantage of people.. ie anti Christian.
What the soul definitely isn't is physical. In no way at all can it be remotely biological, chemical or physical.
To answer your question: our spiritual health is real time, just like our physical health. Doing bad stuff is detrimental to your spiritual health, and makes you sick. Instead of enjoying life you're brought down by guilt and sadness. If we foster our good aims we get better at it, and our health is increased. God comes into this via an improved moral focus. His perfect morality versus our own selfish morality.
I did not miss the first line at all, I just don't understand in that case what else could go on in a human being after death, if not the supposedly immortal soul.
If the soul isn't biological, chemical, physical or psychological, then we either are missing a vital science that could show us what a soul is, or then there is no such thing. For me personally I need research and evidence before I'm convinced that I've got a soul. The things you talk about are to me psychological, alas, it has to do with the psyche and not necessarily a soul. And don't get me started on the morality of the god of the Bible, but I think I'll leave that to another debate.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
