(May 15, 2011 at 11:55 am)fr0d0 Wrote: As a deist do you think that god made us and left? That there is nothing spiritual in humans?
Yes and No… to both queries. First, I always remind people that I do not pretend to know God nor certainly his will. Perhaps He stops in once in awhile, perhaps He’s here all the time. Perhaps He’s never here. Perhaps He’s more ethereal & natural than tangent & forthcoming … I don’t pretend to know – it’s of no concern to me.
A fellow deist of mine once told me, “I accept Him for what He is the way I assume He accepts me for what I am. The journey my soul is to take was set up long before it even existed and I have no concerns about what the Creator has already planned. ” (A very similar sentiment I later found out, held by Thomas Paine)
So yes, deists believe humans have a spiritual side, but no, probably not the way most religious people would define it.
Quote:'Deist' seems very non descript in the same way that 'theist' might be... can you define your beliefs more accurately?
What draws me to Deism is that it IS very non-descript. How can someone claim knowledge of an afterlife that there is no evidence for?
“God spoke to me and I now know what he wants us to do.” If someone speaks these words in today’s society, we all KNOW that they are delusional. AND YET, that is EXACTLY what happened hundreds to thousands of years ago all around the globe. It’s perplexing to me that just because something is very old and the stories are in really old books, written by men that have long been dead – that it must be true. We all mock the Religion of Scientology – and yet every revealed religion on this earth was once as new and absurd as that. The only difference … time.
Yes, I believe the “soul” exists, not some stupid disembodied spirit of a deceased person, but rather a life energy that has transformed from one existence to the next. Unfortunately, like anything of a spiritual nature, it’s probably immeasurable and impossible to prove. Which of course is the other reason I’m drawn to Deism … I have no God demanding me to make people believe the way I do.
That being said, I have no idea what the next stage of existence may hold ... but I look forward to finding out. And if by chance the atheists are right. No problem. I'm fine with that too. If the Christians are right **eye roll and laugh** than I'll be spending a lot of time with some highly intelligent, well-educated people.