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Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged
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RE: Good theists...
(August 28, 2016 at 7:10 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(August 28, 2016 at 7:06 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I can value the likes of Martin Luther King Jr, but that does not make the god of the bible real. I can value the likes of Ann Frank, but that does not make Yahweh a real god. I can value the likes of Malala, but that does not make Allah a real god. To me, it shows the empathy our species has always had and does not need a cosmic sky wizard to explain. But, you still have to deal with reality and that 7 billion humans will never agree on all things all the time. Not even atheists agree all the time.

Completely reasonable.

But can you value the fact that what they accomplish comes from the strength of their convictions/belief and the will to bring more out of themselves comes from a sense of responsibility to/praise for a greater being?

No, I value my species ability to be compassionate. The fact that they falsely attribute that "conviction" based on old myths, I am under no obligation to value as a claim. I am only saying I see good in my species, not what they falsely attribute that good to.

Our species is much older than any written religion or boarders. Our planet since the start of evolution has had 5 mass extinctions of which only 1% of life you see now remains, while 99% has gone extinct. Our sun is only 1 star of billions in our Milky Way Galaxy. A a galaxy so big it takes 1 ray of light 100,000 years at the speed of light to cross. And that is in a universe containing 100s of billions of galaxies in a 13.8 billion year old universe.

I value human rights, not claims. Humans have rights, but claims as ideas do not deserve blind value.
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Good theists... - by ScienceAf - August 28, 2016 at 6:30 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Losty - August 29, 2016 at 10:40 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by joseph_ - August 29, 2016 at 10:44 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 11:30 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by bennyboy - August 29, 2016 at 11:57 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by rado84 - September 17, 2016 at 4:44 am
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by ScienceAf - September 17, 2016 at 8:30 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Jackie - September 17, 2016 at 7:38 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Arkilogue - September 17, 2016 at 7:52 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Jackie - September 17, 2016 at 8:07 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Losty - September 17, 2016 at 7:54 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Arkilogue - September 17, 2016 at 8:21 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Jackie - September 17, 2016 at 8:49 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Jackie - August 28, 2016 at 6:35 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 6:43 pm
RE: Good theists... - by KevinM1 - August 28, 2016 at 6:55 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 6:59 pm
RE: Good theists... - by KevinM1 - August 28, 2016 at 7:00 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 7:05 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Iroscato - October 11, 2016 at 5:42 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Jackie - August 28, 2016 at 7:06 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 7:10 pm
RE: Good theists... - by KevinM1 - August 28, 2016 at 7:11 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 7:15 pm
RE: Good theists... - by bennyboy - August 28, 2016 at 7:38 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 8:21 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Jackie - August 28, 2016 at 8:26 pm
RE: Good theists... - by bennyboy - August 28, 2016 at 8:30 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 8:45 pm
RE: Good theists... - by KevinM1 - August 28, 2016 at 8:58 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Jackie - August 28, 2016 at 9:24 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 9:49 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Joods - August 29, 2016 at 12:30 am
RE: Good theists... - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 1:27 am
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 1:49 am
RE: Good theists... - by Joods - August 29, 2016 at 7:10 am
RE: Good theists... - by Jackie - August 29, 2016 at 9:27 am
RE: Good theists... - by account_inactive - August 29, 2016 at 12:29 pm
RE: Good theists... - by account_inactive - August 29, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: Good theists... - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 12:31 pm
RE: Good theists... - by account_inactive - August 29, 2016 at 12:32 pm
RE: Good theists... - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 12:33 pm
RE: Good theists... - by robvalue - August 29, 2016 at 12:34 pm
RE: Good theists... - by LastPoet - August 29, 2016 at 12:36 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Kingpin - October 11, 2016 at 5:27 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Iroscato - October 11, 2016 at 5:42 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by abaris - October 11, 2016 at 7:37 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Kingpin - October 12, 2016 at 2:21 pm
RE: Good theists... - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 12:37 pm
RE: Good theists... - by account_inactive - August 29, 2016 at 12:38 pm
RE: Good theists... - by account_inactive - August 29, 2016 at 12:39 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Crossless1 - August 29, 2016 at 12:44 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Jesster - August 29, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: Good theists... - by FatAndFaithless - August 29, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: Good theists... - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 1:05 pm
RE: Good theists... - by FatAndFaithless - August 29, 2016 at 1:07 pm
RE: Good theists... - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 1:08 pm
RE: Good theists... - by FatAndFaithless - August 29, 2016 at 1:10 pm
RE: Good theists... - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 1:13 pm
Good theists... Part 2 - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 1:15 pm
RE: Good theists... Part 2 - by Jesster - August 29, 2016 at 1:18 pm
RE: Good theists... Part 2 - by account_inactive - August 29, 2016 at 1:19 pm
RE: Good theists... Part 2 - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 1:21 pm
RE: Good theists... Part 2 - by bennyboy - August 29, 2016 at 7:14 pm
RE: Good theists... Part 2 - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 7:47 pm
RE: Good theists... Part 2 - by bennyboy - August 29, 2016 at 8:23 pm
RE: Good theists... Part 2 - by account_inactive - August 29, 2016 at 8:24 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 2:10 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Simon Moon - August 29, 2016 at 3:41 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 4:00 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Simon Moon - August 29, 2016 at 4:03 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 5:04 pm
RE: Good theists... - by bennyboy - August 29, 2016 at 8:37 pm

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