(April 11, 2009 at 6:49 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(April 11, 2009 at 4:38 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Well I'm sick of this stupid song and dance of yours so I'm putting it to a poll, fairly sure what the result will be but maybe you are right, maybe Catholics aren't Christians?You seem to be sick of discussion before it starts. I'd think that Christians would be quite a reliable source. You think atheists would have a better idea??
I think atheists are more objective that theist like you yes and, guess what, 7 votes in and everyone who has voted reckons Catholics are Christians so let's just drop it eh? Whether you believe it to be so or not, Catholics are as Christian as any other Christian cult.
(April 11, 2009 at 6:49 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(April 11, 2009 at 4:38 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: I see ... so we're back to the claim that the complete lack of empirical evidence somehow proves your cartoon caricature god? Are you some kind of escapee from a mental institution? I ask only out of idle curiosity of course.Nope. Lack of evidence doesn't prove anything. I have faith. That ISN'T provable.
See below.
(April 11, 2009 at 6:49 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(April 11, 2009 at 4:38 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: For fuck's sake, this is just fucking ridiculous!
Yet people get it. You don't.
Not here they don't ... I don't believe any rationalist here (apart form theists) "gets" the idea that lack of evidence can be positive for a claim.
(April 11, 2009 at 6:49 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(April 11, 2009 at 4:38 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: In simple terms? That you actually believe that an absolute lack of evidence proves (or somehow lends credibility to) the claim that there is a god ... do you not see how insane that is?Yes. But then you misconstrued it.
No, I didn't!
(April 11, 2009 at 6:49 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(April 11, 2009 at 4:38 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Yes you did ... you directly stated that a lack of evidence is what should be expected if your god was real.That 'my' God is real or not to me is completely besides the point. What the hell has that got to do with anybody besides me?? My 'point' is that there is no empirical evidence of God. Something that incredulously, you keep on arguing about!
Yet you apparently maintain that that lack of evidence is somehow a positive evidence for your deity ... THAT is what I have a problem with. If it's just faith, no problem (I disagree but no issue) but you somehow twist that to say that is exactly what is expected and implicitly claim it's positive evidence for your god.
Kyu
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