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Gamaliel Never Existed
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RE: Gamaliel Never Existed
(May 16, 2011 at 8:23 pm)Minimalist Wrote: [...]
Rabbis begin with "rabbinic judaism" which, not so oddly, begins only after the temple is burned to the ground. Josephus tries to portray that as an accident but he's full of shit on that one. Rabbinic judaism thus only gets started after 70....and probably not really until the 2d century which is when they started to compile the talmud. But this brings up an anachronism. Why would anyone call jesus a 'rabbi?' He was supposed to be dead long before the idea of a rabbi got going. But, if the gospels were second century writings then the only jews they would have come in contact with would have been post-temple judaism survivors and the term 'rabbi' might have been in general usage.
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If I recall correctly, "rabbi" means "teacher"; teacher of the Torah, if I'm not mistaken. I don't find it hard to believe that there were people who teaching to people and were generally called "rabbi" -by the laymen at least- before the Temple's destruction. Do you truly have a very strong case that calling someone "rabbi" before 70 a.D. is completely anachronistic?
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Gamaliel Never Existed - by Nimzo - May 16, 2011 at 5:27 am
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Zen Badger - May 16, 2011 at 6:09 am
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by R-e-n-n-a-t - May 16, 2011 at 10:17 am
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Doubting Thomas - May 16, 2011 at 11:00 am
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Nimzo - May 16, 2011 at 2:40 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by padraic - May 16, 2011 at 5:21 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Violet - May 16, 2011 at 5:54 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Nimzo - May 16, 2011 at 6:00 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Minimalist - May 16, 2011 at 8:23 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Nimzo - May 17, 2011 at 8:03 am
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by DeistPaladin - May 17, 2011 at 1:22 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Emanuel - May 17, 2011 at 2:49 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Violet - May 16, 2011 at 9:00 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Minimalist - May 17, 2011 at 1:40 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Nimzo - May 17, 2011 at 1:59 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Jaysyn - May 17, 2011 at 2:16 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by DeistPaladin - May 17, 2011 at 3:50 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Minimalist - May 17, 2011 at 2:15 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Nimzo - May 17, 2011 at 2:24 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Minimalist - May 17, 2011 at 2:28 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Nimzo - May 17, 2011 at 2:41 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Minimalist - May 17, 2011 at 2:54 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Nimzo - May 17, 2011 at 5:11 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Minimalist - May 17, 2011 at 4:05 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Minimalist - May 17, 2011 at 5:23 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Nimzo - May 18, 2011 at 7:51 am
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Minimalist - May 18, 2011 at 4:35 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Nimzo - May 18, 2011 at 5:55 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Minimalist - May 18, 2011 at 10:49 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Nimzo - May 19, 2011 at 2:56 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Minimalist - May 19, 2011 at 2:59 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Nimzo - May 19, 2011 at 3:03 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Minimalist - May 19, 2011 at 3:14 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Nimzo - May 19, 2011 at 3:23 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by Minimalist - May 19, 2011 at 11:41 pm
RE: Gamaliel Never Existed - by DeistPaladin - May 20, 2011 at 9:15 am

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