RE: Nihilism
May 17, 2011 at 8:50 pm
(This post was last modified: May 17, 2011 at 9:07 pm by reverendjeremiah.)
Being into absurdism (and consequently lumped into nihilism at the same time) I understand where you are coming from when you say you are tired of people talking bad about it. I personally can see great reason why people would move to nihilism and why it would be so popular.
I personally have a few beefs with nihilism:
#1 - it allows for suicide at any time for any reason, even if for no reason at all. Absurdism considers suicide to be the biggest philosophical question of all (nope, not god... imagine that?!?!). Absurdism says suicide is escaping reality, and therefore not an option. Fiath is considered "philosophical suicide" and escaping reality, and therefore not an option.
#2 - Nihilism does sometimes turn out to be negative in those who embrace it. Absurdism says the mix between the human condition and an inhuman cosmos (the absurd) should be both embraced and revolted against at the same time. This encourages a great sense of humor and a keen eye for bullshit.
#3 - Nihilism says there is no purpose outside of biological and chemical reasons, at all, ever. Absurdism says there is no INHERENT purpose between the cosmos and the human condition, but temporary purpose COULD be found in the journey..even if that journey is merely pointing out the absurd.
#4 - Nihilism says there is no god or deities at all. Absurdism brushes off the idea of gods as being an important choice, because if deities exist, then they are the cause of the absurdity, and therefore should be revolted against as well.
I believe there is personal worth in humanity, but the denomination that you put on that worth with that suck ass purpose of "acknowledging a creator" takes away from it in my opinion
I personally have a few beefs with nihilism:
#1 - it allows for suicide at any time for any reason, even if for no reason at all. Absurdism considers suicide to be the biggest philosophical question of all (nope, not god... imagine that?!?!). Absurdism says suicide is escaping reality, and therefore not an option. Fiath is considered "philosophical suicide" and escaping reality, and therefore not an option.
#2 - Nihilism does sometimes turn out to be negative in those who embrace it. Absurdism says the mix between the human condition and an inhuman cosmos (the absurd) should be both embraced and revolted against at the same time. This encourages a great sense of humor and a keen eye for bullshit.
#3 - Nihilism says there is no purpose outside of biological and chemical reasons, at all, ever. Absurdism says there is no INHERENT purpose between the cosmos and the human condition, but temporary purpose COULD be found in the journey..even if that journey is merely pointing out the absurd.
#4 - Nihilism says there is no god or deities at all. Absurdism brushes off the idea of gods as being an important choice, because if deities exist, then they are the cause of the absurdity, and therefore should be revolted against as well.
(May 17, 2011 at 7:32 pm)Rayaan Wrote: As a theist, I believe that there's a purpose to our existence which is to acknowledge the greatness of our Creator.This is supposed to be a better choice? Thats like saying "Our purpose in life is to acknoweldge that a tree exists and praise how beautiful it is".
(May 17, 2011 at 7:32 pm)Rayaan Wrote: I think it's very unlikely that the whole universe, the earth, the millions of different animals (including ourselves), are a result of blind and purposeless forces which came about merely as an accident or some kind of a "quantum fluctuation," as some believe.Sadly, for you, many highly intelligent scientists have proven the opposite. These are not "beliefs". They are theories based on evidences, as opposed to faith and just making shit up to make yourself feel better.
(May 17, 2011 at 7:32 pm)Rayaan Wrote: Since it is not an accident, then we are not an accident either, so there's a meaning and a purpose in our lives even though people can also create their own purposes for themselves to live by. Well, at least that's what I make of my existence here.So a godless universe has to be an accident? You have to slip humanized language into something non-human? Do rocks have "accidents"? Does dirt and sand have "accidents"? So how come the universe has to be an accident? Well, because you are trying to twist words andtrick us into agreeing with your delusion. How about look up the definition of "accident" for once.
(May 17, 2011 at 7:32 pm)Rayaan Wrote: And yes, I'm well aware of the fact that we are like a speck of dust in the enormous cosmos which includes billions of others galaxies, stars, and planets (and maybe even multiple universes). We are not THAT special, afterall, but we are still great in many ways.
Take it apart if you want to. That's my two cents for now. I have more to offer, though.
I believe there is personal worth in humanity, but the denomination that you put on that worth with that suck ass purpose of "acknowledging a creator" takes away from it in my opinion