(September 6, 2016 at 10:57 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote:(September 6, 2016 at 10:45 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I wanted to bump this thread; so I can comment later. But in the mean time, I wanted to see if you could clarify what you mean in premise 2: "Moral values are purely and wholely epistemlogically subjective".
Sure. I mean that our own values are objectively unknowable.
I would think, that you can know your own values, as well; you could know the values of another (if they tell you) objectively; even if they are by nature subjective.
I also wanted to see if you agree with the following statements in regards to the discussion:
When talking about ontologically objective; you are saying that the nature of the object is based on something outside of and independent of the subject (as opposed to relative to the subject).
When talking about epistemically objective; you are speaking of facts or knowledge, which are independent of the subject. For example how we know that X is true or justified. This would be opposed to a subjective interpretation or opinion of what those facts mean or in light of the unknown..
