(September 7, 2016 at 10:52 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(September 7, 2016 at 9:31 am)Little Rik Wrote: Wrong once again yog.You don't know the meaning of these words. You just use them as a generic mantra. Nowhere in your post did you dispute that your excuses were ad hoc, so how on earth can you claim that I was wrong? You can't sensibly. Much like the rest of your stuff, these words are nonsense when uttered by you.
(September 7, 2016 at 9:31 am)Little Rik Wrote: Your knowledge in psychology is next to zero and if combined with a total lack of knowledge about yoga then is quite easy to see your skepticism.
To understand what happen during yoga meditation is also important to understand what happen during the withdrawal symptoms for drug, alcohol smoke or any other addiction.
The body and mind try to stick to the old habit.
Body and mind came to the point that now control you.
You are no longer able to control them and to turn the wheel around is not easy.
Most of the people who try fail.
Only few succeed.
Yoga work along similar lines.
Our materialism, our bad habits (nobody is perfect) and our karma are ingrained in our consciousness.
They refuse to let go.
By practicing yoga you try to turn the wheel around and that is very hard work that only few succeed.
To do this everybody in the beginning have to go through the withdraw symptom.
You may feel that to be a negative symptom.
In effect is a positive sign that progress is possible.
Dr. Shapiro confuse the frustration of doing the hard work which is a positive sign with negative symptoms that is why I said that he is 100% wrong.
And your evidence of this is.... once again nothing! Just more blah, blah, blah, I like Yoga!
Where is your evidence for any of the bullshit that you've spewed? The following is a list of things you need to provide evidence for:
1. that there is such a thing as a 'real guru'
2. that there is a difference in the effectiveness of different mantras
3. that the negative symptoms Shapiro found were a result of 'hard work' instead of meditation being harmful
4. that meditation is 'effective'
5. that meditation when done right only produces positives
6. karma
7. reincarnation
8. microvita
Of course you're not going to provide evidence for these things because you don't have any. All we've got from you on these is a bunch of stories. Without evidence, your stories are no less fairy tales than tales of unicorns and fairy godmothers. You've got squat. All you've got is your testimonial that these things are real and true. There are a thousand scammers on internet and tv and they've got their testimonials too. Your assertions and testimony are just another scam unless you've got evidence.
Addictions are called such because you lose control of yourself.
You are no longer able to control yourself.
Once you try to turn the wheel around and take control of the situation you feel like you are facing a terrible struggle.
The body and mind make you feel like you are doing the wrong things when in effect is the opposite.
Obviously they need more and more drugs not less.
This is how the system works yog.
This struggle make you feel frustrated and it is easy to think that this is a negative result of the effort that you are making but it is just the opposite.
Every psychologist that is involved in helping addicted people know this.
Shapiro never knew this simple conclusion.
By believing Shapiro you too fall in the trap.
Yoga effort is similar to getting rid of drugs.
The drugs that yoga deal are materialism and all other isms except universalism but considering that you still can not grasp the meanings of the above sentences then is just a waste of time to continue explaining
you other topics.
