(September 9, 2016 at 2:24 pm)ScienceAf Wrote:(September 9, 2016 at 2:02 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: There have been many many threads about this. It's a valid question. My personal answer would be that God allows us to live in this natural world in all its ways without His constant supernatural intervention. I think if He were to intervene every time something bad would happen to someone, it would get to the point where we wouldn't be fully humans anymore, just puppets without purpose and without the ability to learn, love, and feel emotions.
How come there was constant super natural convention before the invention of the camera?
Or proper historical documentation?
Or advances in science?
We would be humans.
We would be able to love and care.
Just not hurt.
And If god was all knowing and all powerful...
Couldn't he just devise a plan to make it so there would be no evil but in a way without affecting free will?
He should be able to.
And why should god make humans.
How are we his best creation.
He's fucking god for Christ's sake (literally).
He could make something infinitely awesome minus one just below him.
And he would be able to break math.
Cuz he is gawd.
It's sort of along the lines of, can there be real joy, and understanding and appreciation of that joy, without there being sadness? Can there be pleasure without pain? Can there be love without hate? What would be the point of having the free will to do something loving for another without the free will to do something unloving to that person? Even if that unloving thing is merely neglect?
Unlike many Christians out there, I don't necessarily believe everything that happens happens "for a reason" or as part of some master plan. In the grand scheme of things, yes, but not necessarily for specific, individual scenarios.
This belief of mine was put to the test recently when I lost my first (and only) child, who's heart stopped beating inside my womb when I was almost 6 months pregnant. It was an extremely hard pregnancy in which I had non stop sickness the whole time, had to put many things on hold, and even battled some depression for the first time in my life. ...All that, only to have it end in the stillbirth of my baby.
I wanted to think there was a "reason" for it, or that God specifically had a plan for me and "did" this to me on purpose for some reason. But I can't and won't bring myself to believe that's the case. Rather, I think God just allows nature to take its coarse. These things just happen sometimes. People die, even babies. It's very very sad for us, but at the end of the day it's part of life and part of how our world works. God wasn't trying to test me or to teach me a lesson. The only "grand plan" God has in this is that we eventually move on to the next life. So it is with everything else, I think.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
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