(September 11, 2016 at 5:30 am)Arkilogue Wrote:(September 11, 2016 at 5:14 am)bennyboy Wrote: I don't think polyamory is ethical, because I still believe (shoot me, I already know what you fuckers are going to say about this) that at the core, heterosexual relationships are about babies. Yeah, fuck you, I said it, don't start with me.
The ethics of sexuality are largely to do with what happens at the point of pregnancy. In a polyamorous relationship, pregnancy likely means that the woman will no longer get to be anything-androus. Since she's lacking the bonded understanding of a monogamous couple, she's going to have a hard time convincing the man that he suddenly needs to commit to helping her build a nest and raising a child.
The other issue is the reproductive life cycle. It's easy to talk a 20 year-old girl into thinking she'll never ever want a baby. But fast forward about 9 years, and there's going to be a real dissonance-- she's very likely to start wondering about reproducing, whereas for a man-- well, he's still got about 40 years to think about it.
So the Bonobo's are doing it wrong?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/07/opinions/m...os-safina/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex...ve-and-sex
What's morally right for a bonobo, in my opinion, isn't necessarily right for a human being.
So the question is are they doing it wrong?
In their society sex with infants is common. The male has no guarantee that the baby is his and doesn't participate in raising the child at all.
It seems that their path of evolution has made this behavior the best that works for them, their bodies seem to be geared towards using sex as basically their version of a handshake or some form of casual comfort.
In human society the standard trend seems to be that fathers want to look after their own children. And that there's a taboo on sex with children possibly related to the fact that in most human cultures sex is seen as something more signficant than a handshake or a pat on the back to comfort someone.
From what I can gather in our society, fathers doing nothing to raise their children and sex with infants only seems to have bad outcomes for our species.
That's just my guess, you could go back in time and somehow coerse the human species to adopt bonobo culture from the dawn of humanity and it might result in something amazing, my guess is though that our behaviors suit our psychology and biology.
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
Impersonation is treason.