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Foundation of all Axioms the Axioms of Consciousness
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RE: Foundation of all Axioms the Axioms of Consciousness
(August 20, 2016 at 11:55 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(August 20, 2016 at 9:21 am)fdesilva Wrote: If you accept the axioms given, then everything that exist from the accepted classical science point of view exist from instant to instant. What happened a 100th of a second ago does not exist any more. Neither does something that is going to happen in a 100th of a second to the future. Yet if you take U to span time because music is across time then the "I" that is observing it is able traverse time as well as space, that is observe a 4Dimensional segment of space and time. "I" will be able to accomplish this only if it is outside the 4 Dimensions of space and time in a 5th dimension

Or the brain is able to maintain state, have memory of the recent past, and operate on the combined data from the separate moments.  This solves the problem without introducing an unevidenced component.  Occam's razor leans in favor of the memory hypothesis.  That I can remember and form an impression across time is not magic.  No fifth dimension is required.   But we've been here before, in your other thread.

If you agree that in the current instant nothing to the past exist then putting that past into memory does not solve the problem as then what you are saying is that memory, a set of events that are space like separated, are creating or is responsible for the "I" in that instant, which is impossible as nothing can connect simultaneous events
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RE: Foundation of all Axioms the Axioms of Consciousness - by fdesilva - September 11, 2016 at 9:57 am

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