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Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged
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RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged
(September 17, 2016 at 7:52 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(September 17, 2016 at 7:38 pm)Brian37 Wrote: There are certainly good humans all over the world from every background. But theism is not what makes a human good. There are hospitals and  prisons in every nation on the planet. Our species behaviors are not coming from any religion. Our species behaviors, both good and bad are a result of our evolution. There are good people who have bad logic, and there are bad people who don't care and use that bad logic intentionally to manipulate others.

Are you saying that people aren't motivated to act based on their religious predilections, both good or bad?

Yes, of course they are, but for most, most humans are sold the religions of their parents. That does not make all theists bad, it only makes bad logic bad. Same can be said for atheists. There is no way I would call Ayn Rands economic views good, nor any atheist who values Che who lead to Cuba.

I love my mom who is Catholic, and she is my biggest supporter and still spoils me to this day. But that will never make eating magic crackers scientific or true. It is a placebo at best. But if you ask me about the collective history of that institution it is not what it's followers think it is cracked up to be. Just like it is right to question the theocracies of Islam. Our species is much older than any written religion or boarders for that matter.

I love the empathy of Ann Frank but that does not make Yahweh a real God. I love the empathy of Martin Luther King Jr, but that doesn't make the Christian Jesus a real God. I love the courage of Malala, but that does not make Allah a real God. Humans make up all religions and all gods. We'd do better as a species to face that fact, not to force religion out of existence as if you could. But we cannot nor should fear facts and change. If our species never questioned social norms, our species never would have left the caves.
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Good theists... - by ScienceAf - August 28, 2016 at 6:30 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Losty - August 29, 2016 at 10:40 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by joseph_ - August 29, 2016 at 10:44 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 11:30 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by bennyboy - August 29, 2016 at 11:57 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by rado84 - September 17, 2016 at 4:44 am
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by ScienceAf - September 17, 2016 at 8:30 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Brian37 - September 17, 2016 at 7:38 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Arkilogue - September 17, 2016 at 7:52 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Brian37 - September 17, 2016 at 8:07 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Losty - September 17, 2016 at 7:54 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Arkilogue - September 17, 2016 at 8:21 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Brian37 - September 17, 2016 at 8:49 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Brian37 - August 28, 2016 at 6:35 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 6:43 pm
RE: Good theists... - by KevinM1 - August 28, 2016 at 6:55 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 6:59 pm
RE: Good theists... - by KevinM1 - August 28, 2016 at 7:00 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 7:05 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Iroscato - October 11, 2016 at 5:42 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Brian37 - August 28, 2016 at 7:06 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 7:10 pm
RE: Good theists... - by KevinM1 - August 28, 2016 at 7:11 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 7:15 pm
RE: Good theists... - by bennyboy - August 28, 2016 at 7:38 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 8:21 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Brian37 - August 28, 2016 at 8:26 pm
RE: Good theists... - by bennyboy - August 28, 2016 at 8:30 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 8:45 pm
RE: Good theists... - by KevinM1 - August 28, 2016 at 8:58 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Brian37 - August 28, 2016 at 9:24 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 9:49 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Joods - August 29, 2016 at 12:30 am
RE: Good theists... - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 1:27 am
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 1:49 am
RE: Good theists... - by Joods - August 29, 2016 at 7:10 am
RE: Good theists... - by Brian37 - August 29, 2016 at 9:27 am
RE: Good theists... - by account_inactive - August 29, 2016 at 12:29 pm
RE: Good theists... - by account_inactive - August 29, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: Good theists... - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 12:31 pm
RE: Good theists... - by account_inactive - August 29, 2016 at 12:32 pm
RE: Good theists... - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 12:33 pm
RE: Good theists... - by robvalue - August 29, 2016 at 12:34 pm
RE: Good theists... - by LastPoet - August 29, 2016 at 12:36 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Kingpin - October 11, 2016 at 5:27 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Iroscato - October 11, 2016 at 5:42 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by abaris - October 11, 2016 at 7:37 pm
RE: Good theists... Parts 1 and 2 merged - by Kingpin - October 12, 2016 at 2:21 pm
RE: Good theists... - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 12:37 pm
RE: Good theists... - by account_inactive - August 29, 2016 at 12:38 pm
RE: Good theists... - by account_inactive - August 29, 2016 at 12:39 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Crossless1 - August 29, 2016 at 12:44 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Jesster - August 29, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: Good theists... - by FatAndFaithless - August 29, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: Good theists... - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 1:05 pm
RE: Good theists... - by FatAndFaithless - August 29, 2016 at 1:07 pm
RE: Good theists... - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 1:08 pm
RE: Good theists... - by FatAndFaithless - August 29, 2016 at 1:10 pm
RE: Good theists... - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 1:13 pm
Good theists... Part 2 - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 1:15 pm
RE: Good theists... Part 2 - by Jesster - August 29, 2016 at 1:18 pm
RE: Good theists... Part 2 - by account_inactive - August 29, 2016 at 1:19 pm
RE: Good theists... Part 2 - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 1:21 pm
RE: Good theists... Part 2 - by bennyboy - August 29, 2016 at 7:14 pm
RE: Good theists... Part 2 - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 7:47 pm
RE: Good theists... Part 2 - by bennyboy - August 29, 2016 at 8:23 pm
RE: Good theists... Part 2 - by account_inactive - August 29, 2016 at 8:24 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 2:10 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Simon Moon - August 29, 2016 at 3:41 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 4:00 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Simon Moon - August 29, 2016 at 4:03 pm
RE: Good theists... - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 5:04 pm
RE: Good theists... - by bennyboy - August 29, 2016 at 8:37 pm

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