Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: June 4, 2025, 4:38 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Infinity
#30
RE: Infinity
(September 19, 2016 at 7:05 am)fdesilva Wrote: At the big bang the laws of physics do not exist. That is why its called a singularity. You do not have a before hand as time itself was created at this event. These are the accepted facts, not something I am making up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
Quote:Extrapolation of the expansion of the universe backwards in time using general relativity yields an infinite density and temperature at a finite time in the past.[13] This singularity signals the breakdown of general relativity and thus, all the laws of physics.

No, these are not accepted facts. This is just the extent of our understanding.


From New Scientist

What came before the big bang?

Quote:The trouble is, our understanding of space-time, and gravity in particular, is built from Einstein’s equations of general relativity, whereas the extreme conditions of the very early universe can only be described by quantum mechanics. No one knows how to reconcile the two to take us further back. “The rules we have simply don’t work in that regime,” says Carlo Contaldi at Imperial College London. “Nothing makes sense any more.”

That’s a problem for our origin story. Did time begin with the big bang? Or was there an epoch before it?

Some insist that if we rewind the universe far enough, time just stops.But Lee Smolin of the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics in Waterloo, Canada, is having none of it.

“It’s a cute idea but there’s not much evidence for it,” he says. In fact, Smolin wants to see the idea that the universe has a starting point dropped entirely. We can only hope to explain why our universe is the way it is, he says, if there was something before the big bang. It’s about cause and effect; to arrive at satisfying explanations for why things are as they are, we draw on previous events that led to the conditions we see.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Infinity - by fdesilva - September 11, 2016 at 10:00 am
RE: Infinity - by robvalue - September 11, 2016 at 10:49 am
RE: Infinity - by maestroanth - October 30, 2016 at 7:35 am
RE: Infinity - by bennyboy - October 30, 2016 at 6:14 pm
RE: Infinity - by c172 - September 11, 2016 at 10:55 am
RE: Infinity - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 11, 2016 at 11:24 am
RE: Infinity - by Minimalist - September 11, 2016 at 11:32 am
RE: Infinity - by bennyboy - September 11, 2016 at 11:53 am
RE: Infinity - by robvalue - September 11, 2016 at 12:07 pm
RE: Infinity - by purplepurpose - September 11, 2016 at 12:57 pm
RE: Infinity - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 11, 2016 at 1:30 pm
RE: Infinity - by Jesster - September 11, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 7:43 pm
RE: Infinity - by fdesilva - September 18, 2016 at 10:26 pm
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 10:55 pm
RE: Infinity - by fdesilva - September 19, 2016 at 4:10 am
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 5:27 am
RE: Infinity - by chimp3 - September 19, 2016 at 7:14 am
RE: Infinity - by fdesilva - September 19, 2016 at 7:15 am
RE: Infinity - by chimp3 - September 19, 2016 at 7:23 am
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 2:20 pm
RE: Infinity - by chimp3 - September 20, 2016 at 4:55 am
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - October 1, 2016 at 6:43 pm
RE: Infinity - by chimp3 - October 1, 2016 at 7:06 pm
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - October 1, 2016 at 8:01 pm
RE: Infinity - by chimp3 - October 1, 2016 at 9:54 pm
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - October 1, 2016 at 11:35 pm
RE: Infinity - by chimp3 - September 18, 2016 at 10:48 pm
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 10:58 pm
RE: Infinity - by Aractus - September 18, 2016 at 11:39 pm
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 12:17 am
RE: Infinity - by Aractus - September 19, 2016 at 5:22 am
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 2:18 pm
RE: Infinity - by fdesilva - September 19, 2016 at 5:08 am
RE: Infinity - by I_am_not_mafia - September 19, 2016 at 4:53 am
RE: Infinity - by fdesilva - September 19, 2016 at 5:12 am
RE: Infinity - by I_am_not_mafia - September 19, 2016 at 5:17 am
RE: Infinity - by fdesilva - September 19, 2016 at 7:05 am
RE: Infinity - by I_am_not_mafia - September 19, 2016 at 7:57 am
RE: Infinity - by fdesilva - September 19, 2016 at 8:58 am
RE: Infinity - by I_am_not_mafia - September 19, 2016 at 5:51 am
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 2:20 pm
RE: Infinity - by I_am_not_mafia - September 19, 2016 at 8:04 am
RE: Infinity - by InquiringMind - September 25, 2016 at 6:38 pm
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - October 1, 2016 at 6:59 pm
RE: Infinity - by chimp3 - October 1, 2016 at 11:40 pm
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - October 2, 2016 at 12:08 am
RE: Infinity - by chimp3 - October 2, 2016 at 9:23 am
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - October 2, 2016 at 2:52 pm
RE: Infinity - by Ravenshire - October 1, 2016 at 11:50 pm
RE: Infinity - by robvalue - October 2, 2016 at 12:31 am
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - October 2, 2016 at 12:42 am
RE: Infinity - by robvalue - October 2, 2016 at 2:09 am
RE: Infinity - by bennyboy - October 30, 2016 at 5:49 pm
RE: Infinity - by Alex K - October 30, 2016 at 6:58 pm
RE: Infinity - by bennyboy - October 30, 2016 at 11:33 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Actual Infinity in Reality? SteveII 478 93562 March 6, 2018 at 11:44 am
Last Post: Anomalocaris
  Thinking about infinity Ignorant 71 11318 May 3, 2016 at 7:17 am
Last Post: ErGingerbreadMandude
  Can Infinity be boundary (only reasonable answers) reality.Mathematician 9 2914 June 19, 2014 at 4:48 am
Last Post: ignoramus
  That which you do not understand is infinity... grassdoctor 7 1967 November 4, 2013 at 10:06 am
Last Post: Angrboda
  Existence and Infinity (Warning: major rambling) Napoléon 58 28585 September 5, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Last Post: Napoléon
  A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think? amateurlyinsightful 82 34751 July 6, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Last Post: amateurlyinsightful



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)