(September 21, 2016 at 5:38 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(September 21, 2016 at 5:22 pm)fdesilva Wrote: In regards to the globes (Activity of interest) the following is true.
Consider a snap shot of globes at an instant of time.
Any one of the globes has absolutely no causal or any other relationship to any other globe in the snap shot.
As such
1. The distribution of the globes over space in that snapshot can and is possible what corresponds to the U (the tree) of the axiom
2. However the question is what corresponds to the "I" in this snap shot?
Regarding #2, that's a complex question which we don't have a full answer to as of yet. Some of it is explained by the operation of the visual cortex, but how that then goes on to become an experience of viewing a tree is largely unknown. One caveat I would have with your snapshot is that it doesn't capture the massive amount of parallelism occurring in the brain. We don't 'see' an image in our minds. We are aware of things like treeness, foreground/background, shape, color, and these are all likely nodes of computation which are worked out independently, in concert. The assemblage of nodes is what we experience as a tree. We don't have a literal representation of a tree pulsing along one nerve path.
Yes the processing is in parallel and sequential. That’s is as the nerve impulses from the eyes travel into the brain some parts filter aspects of colour others shape etc. It’s a bit like digestion of food but a whole lot faster. All that is well and good. However, the problem I have is while we can imagine all this information coming together to give us the image of the tree, we are assuming that something that happened at say 1 millisecond ago can combine with what is happening now. However, what happened 1 millisecond ago does not exist anymore. The only thing that is available from instant to instant are the globes in the snap shot. These globes can be a coded image but never the “I”. Without the “I” its like a tv with nobody watching.
Anyway that's my story, I truly appreciate the time given. Thank you.