RE: Am I a Deist? Cosmological Argument seems reasonable to me.
September 23, 2016 at 1:58 pm
(This post was last modified: September 23, 2016 at 2:03 pm by _Velvet_.)
(September 23, 2016 at 1:46 pm)Faith No More Wrote: 1:Even if I granted you this as true, what proof do you have that this thing that defies the rules of causation is a conscious entity?
2:How exactly does something exist out of time? Is a position in time not a prerequisite for existence? How can something start time when it would by definition have to precede time, even though preceding time is a nonsensical concept?
3:You have to remember that the whole universe was a singularity at this point, and our understanding of physics breaks down at this state. Not only that, but it's been proven that the universe does not follow the classical notion of cause and effect at this scale.
1: I haven't made that claim, I don't necessarily needed a god or conscious entity, I just needed a uncaused cause for things to make sense.
But ApeNotKillApe and RobValue pointed that we also don't necessarily need things to make sense so that they can be true.
(This raises some other problems, if things don't need to make sense to be true we can't use thought process as a pathway to truth?, because we sure as hell wouldn't just stumble into the idea of things being truth and not truth at the same time of quantum physics without the experiement showing very clearly that was the case)
