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My Almighty VS your argument against it
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My Almighty VS your argument against it
I emailed the Atheist Experience and asked about meaning. I got the typical canned answer about creating your own meaning, but I responded with this, "If there is no God, then there is no meaning" Meaning, all meaning is a delusional construct carried out by a narrative we tell ourselves why we do the things we do. When in reality, all we really do is eat, sleep, and fuck. You see, but this is where my self-analysis questioned why this even proved God anyway. Its the ontological rabbit hole. He did respond by affirming that, "yes, humans can create meaning" Which means humans can create something that seems there but really isn't and/or create something real that wasn't there before. Like the Pyramids. In my humble opinion, aliens probably did not build the pyramids. Possible, yes technically. Read Future of Humanity by that asian phycisist. Aliens could have the ability to warp time and space and selectively choose to visit with the intent of manipulating an environment. And there is a theory that aliens could somehow conscious speak to us without inorganic technology.

So this is where I'm at. If we get visited by aliens in physical space crafts, then I'm a Deist. Conversely, if I witness humanity changing from their evil ways and killing the Devil themselves, then I'm a Polytheist. And if one human in this world proves to be Adam from the Latter Day Saint perspective (God of this world) then I'm a Monotheist. This is how I personally experience God. I don't exactly know who or what this higher power is that I'm connecting with, but I am. So I see God as the being who at some point in time made a promise to fix what they had a hand in breaking. Like a cracked egg
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RE: My Almighty VS your argument against it
(May 3, 2022 at 6:24 pm)Won2blv Wrote: I emailed the Atheist Experience and asked about meaning. I got the typical canned answer about creating your own meaning, but I responded with this, "If there is no God, then there is no meaning" Meaning, all meaning is a delusional construct carried out by a narrative we tell ourselves why we do the things we do. When in reality, all we really do is eat, sleep, and fuck. You see, but this is where my self-analysis questioned why this even proved God anyway. Its the ontological rabbit hole. He did respond by affirming that, "yes, humans can create meaning" Which means humans can create something that seems there but really isn't and/or create something real that wasn't there before. Like the Pyramids. In my humble opinion, aliens probably did not build the pyramids. Possible, yes technically. Read Future of Humanity by that asian phycisist. Aliens could have the ability to warp time and space and selectively choose to visit with the intent of manipulating an environment. And there is a theory that aliens could somehow conscious speak to us without inorganic technology.

So this is where I'm at. If we get visited by aliens in physical space crafts, then I'm a Deist. Conversely, if I witness humanity changing from their evil ways and killing the Devil themselves, then I'm a Polytheist. And if one human in this world proves to be Adam from the Latter Day Saint perspective (God of this world) then I'm a Monotheist. This is how I personally experience God. I don't exactly know who or what this higher power is that I'm connecting with, but I am. So I see God as the being who at some point in time made a promise to fix what they had a hand in breaking. Like a cracked egg

That's not an argument but a position. You're welcome to it. Hope it helps you makes sense of your life.

I don't need it. Man made god(s) is my position. It's the only one that puts 'woo' in the proper context.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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RE: My Almighty VS your argument against it
(May 3, 2022 at 6:24 pm)Won2blv Wrote: I emailed the Atheist Experience and asked about meaning. I got the typical canned answer about creating your own meaning, but I responded with this, "If there is no God, then there is no meaning" Meaning, all meaning is a delusional construct carried out by a narrative we tell ourselves why we do the things we do. When in reality, all we really do is eat, sleep, and fuck. You see, but this is where my self-analysis questioned why this even proved God anyway. Its the ontological rabbit hole. He did respond by affirming that, "yes, humans can create meaning" Which means humans can create something that seems there but really isn't and/or create something real that wasn't there before. Like the Pyramids. In my humble opinion, aliens probably did not build the pyramids. Possible, yes technically. Read Future of Humanity by that asian phycisist. Aliens could have the ability to warp time and space and selectively choose to visit with the intent of manipulating an environment. And there is a theory that aliens could somehow conscious speak to us without inorganic technology.

So this is where I'm at. If we get visited by aliens in physical space crafts, then I'm a Deist. Conversely, if I witness humanity changing from their evil ways and killing the Devil themselves, then I'm a Polytheist. And if one human in this world proves to be Adam from the Latter Day Saint perspective (God of this world) then I'm a Monotheist. This is how I personally experience God. I don't exactly know who or what this higher power is that I'm connecting with, but I am. So I see God as the being who at some point in time made a promise to fix what they had a hand in breaking. Like a cracked egg

I don't follow what you're trying to say.
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RE: My Almighty VS your argument against it
(May 3, 2022 at 7:02 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
(May 3, 2022 at 6:24 pm)Won2blv Wrote: I emailed the Atheist Experience and asked about meaning. I got the typical canned answer about creating your own meaning, but I responded with this, "If there is no God, then there is no meaning" Meaning, all meaning is a delusional construct carried out by a narrative we tell ourselves why we do the things we do. When in reality, all we really do is eat, sleep, and fuck. You see, but this is where my self-analysis questioned why this even proved God anyway. Its the ontological rabbit hole. He did respond by affirming that, "yes, humans can create meaning" Which means humans can create something that seems there but really isn't and/or create something real that wasn't there before. Like the Pyramids. In my humble opinion, aliens probably did not build the pyramids. Possible, yes technically. Read Future of Humanity by that asian phycisist. Aliens could have the ability to warp time and space and selectively choose to visit with the intent of manipulating an environment. And there is a theory that aliens could somehow conscious speak to us without inorganic technology.

So this is where I'm at. If we get visited by aliens in physical space crafts, then I'm a Deist. Conversely, if I witness humanity changing from their evil ways and killing the Devil themselves, then I'm a Polytheist. And if one human in this world proves to be Adam from the Latter Day Saint perspective (God of this world) then I'm a Monotheist. This is how I personally experience God. I don't exactly know who or what this higher power is that I'm connecting with, but I am. So I see God as the being who at some point in time made a promise to fix what they had a hand in breaking. Like a cracked egg

I don't follow what you're trying to say.

Good - I thought it was just me.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: My Almighty VS your argument against it
(May 3, 2022 at 6:24 pm)Won2blv Wrote: I emailed the Atheist Experience and asked about meaning. I got the typical canned answer about creating your own meaning, but I responded with this, "If there is no God, then there is no meaning" Meaning, all meaning is a delusional construct carried out by a narrative we tell ourselves why we do the things we do. When in reality, all we really do is eat, sleep, and fuck. You see, but this is where my self-analysis questioned why this even proved God anyway. Its the ontological rabbit hole. He did respond by affirming that, "yes, humans can create meaning" Which means humans can create something that seems there but really isn't and/or create something real that wasn't there before. Like the Pyramids. In my humble opinion, aliens probably did not build the pyramids. Possible, yes technically. Read Future of Humanity by that asian phycisist. Aliens could have the ability to warp time and space and selectively choose to visit with the intent of manipulating an environment. And there is a theory that aliens could somehow conscious speak to us without inorganic technology.

So this is where I'm at. If we get visited by aliens in physical space crafts, then I'm a Deist. Conversely, if I witness humanity changing from their evil ways and killing the Devil themselves, then I'm a Polytheist. And if one human in this world proves to be Adam from the Latter Day Saint perspective (God of this world) then I'm a Monotheist. This is how I personally experience God. I don't exactly know who or what this higher power is that I'm connecting with, but I am. So I see God as the being who at some point in time made a promise to fix what they had a hand in breaking. Like a cracked egg

So if god is the only way there is meaning, if pyramid-building aliens show up (again) after creating a time/space warp then the LDS people are going to crack eggs while killing the devil.

Fasci-fucking-nating.
  
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RE: My Almighty VS your argument against it
(May 3, 2022 at 6:24 pm)Won2blv Wrote: "If there is no God, then there is no meaning" Meaning, all meaning is a delusional construct carried out by a narrative we tell ourselves why we do the things we do....

... This is how I personally experience God. I don't exactly know who or what this higher power is that I'm connecting with, but I am. 

If a child is starving, eating peanuts could mean life.  If a child has a peanut allergy, eating peanuts could mean death.  We can see by such specific cases that meanings can be both relative and objective.  So unless you can show that God was necessary to create such specific meanings, then meaning can be derived without any God.  This explanation for objective meanings is sufficient without a God-concept.

We also ascribe meanings through interpretations.  That's where meanings get fuzzier and subjective, but that does not mean there are no objective meanings.
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RE: My Almighty VS your argument against it
Regarding the OP.....

Were your parents at Woodstock???


The brown acid might be the culprit......
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RE: My Almighty VS your argument against it
FSM eats other gods, That is how Xhe gains nourishment, that and cool ranch Doritos.

So I'm sorry to say if your almighty existed, FSM ate it.
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

      Conservative trigger warning.
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RE: My Almighty VS your argument against it
Here I sit broken hearted...
<insert profound quote here>
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RE: My Almighty VS your argument against it
(May 3, 2022 at 9:40 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Here I sit broken hearted...

Consoling
  
“If you are the smartest person in the room, then you are in the wrong room.” — Confucius
                                      
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