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Foundation of all Axioms the Axioms of Consciousness
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RE: Foundation of all Axioms the Axioms of Consciousness
(September 23, 2016 at 4:06 pm)fdesilva Wrote:
(September 23, 2016 at 3:46 am)Rhythm Wrote: Are you familiar with the concept of a register?  Or memory in general?  You can retain "what happened a millisecond ago" for as long as you like in a computational environment.  It doesn't matter if that "x" doesn't exist anymore.  A memory state describing it does and persists.  

Is your "I" something other than a persistent narrative of memory?
Any memory that enters the conscious experience needs to become one of the activities inside a globe in the above argument and as such is covered in that analysis.
“I” is the single thing that is observing the tree.

What evidence do you have that the experiencer is a single thing?  You're just asserting it based on your experience of consciousness.  However things like cerebral achromatopsia and pain asymbolia strongly suggest that different aspects of our experience happen in different parts of the brain.  The evidence seems to suggest that consciousness is a composite formed by multiple areas of the brain.  How do you know that "I" is a single thing?

(September 23, 2016 at 4:06 pm)fdesilva Wrote: What has been demonstrated is from instant to instant all of the activities (Nerve impulses etc) taken to be creating the conscious experience have absolutely no connection to each other. This is as a nerve impulse must complete before it can influence some activity to its future.
While the above argument does not use special relativity (SR), it is a fact (from SR) that simultaneous events cannot have a connection or create anything that has energy. The essential nature of “I” is that it must bring together simultaneous event that make up the “U” or the tree. There is nothing physical that can do that.
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This is nothing but a bare assertion.  And the evidence from studies of brain trauma indicates otherwise.  Consciousness may be a set of events that happen in parallell or that happen serially in quick succession.

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I see the composite as images of a horse running, but the individual images are not any such thing.  Consciousness appears to be a process which draws upon multiple parts of the brain.  You're saying that the representation is a single thing.  That's like saying of the animation of the horse that the appearance of movement happens because of real movement.  You don't know that experiencers are single, unitary things, and the evidence from neuroscience seems to contradict you.
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RE: Foundation of all Axioms the Axioms of Consciousness - by Angrboda - September 23, 2016 at 6:08 pm

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