RE: Richard Carrier - The Hero Savior Analogy
September 24, 2016 at 2:55 am
(This post was last modified: September 24, 2016 at 3:05 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 24, 2016 at 2:38 am)Mudhammam Wrote: A hundred different people could have inconsistent impressions of you.Absolutely. I;d even go so far as to call that one a fact, not a possibility.
Quote:Some of their beliefs about you may not by any means resemble you as you actually are.Well, given the sheer number of them and their varied opinions on me we'd have to say that few, if any, resemble me as I am.
Quote:That doesn't mean that there is absolutely nothing in their false impressions of you that contains some truth of you as you indeed are, or that the false impression is based on some other being who is not ultimately derived, however distorted the caricature may be, from the real you.What truth might that be? That's the problem, isn't it? "Some" truth, "some" person. Unless you care to hazard a guess as to which narratives provide us a glimpse of whichever of the jesus you think existed...this is all irrelevant.
"If jesus was as real as you, then whats true of stories about you could/would be true of stories about him" Well no shit...but -is- jesus as real as me? Isn't that the question? If a book is full of caricatures (this, too, simply assumes that jesus is really real).....what sense does it make so say that it contains a historical jesus, particularly when you can't even tell me which caricature is more accurate than another? A book full of caricatures about me would be no more representative of "the historical rhythm". Regaradless of the fact that I exist in the here and now, that doesn't actually give anyone any good -reason- to think that I did..centuries (or even just decades) into the future. You'd ask for corroborating data, wouldn't you? You wouldn't be satisfied with a book of exaggerated descriptions of the archetypal redneck as "the historical rhythm", would you? When that corroborating data turns out to be simple misinterpretation all the way to fraud, and so does the book of caricatures...would you -still- feel confident that one of the caricatures is "the historical rhythm"?
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