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Why can't Christians Verify Exactly Where Jesus Was Buried?
RE: Why can't Christians Verify Exactly Where Jesus Was Buried?
(September 26, 2016 at 6:45 am)Aractus Wrote:
(September 26, 2016 at 3:45 am)Firefighter01 Wrote: Have you ever thought that both these stories may just be fiction?

Quote:I just said that I don't view Acts as being "wholly reliable", I think you need to re-read what I said.
What I'm asking you is why do you act as though the Bible is reliable?

Quote:Paul cannot fictionalise himself, that's nonsensical. We have at least seven letters that he wrote to early first-century Christian churches. If your argument is that Paul and Jesus never existed then who founded the church? I have a pretty good idea of how it happened. Not a complete picture of course, but enough to say that Pauline Christianity was the strand of Christianity positioned correctly for the latter part of the first century which was crucial in its success. Without it the church most likely would have died off and never made it to the end of the second century.
Only if you pre-suppose that he existed. Others could assume his name and write about him, just like they may have for Jesus. I don't know who founded the church and neither do you. Who founded and wrote the mystery cults? Who founded the Cargo Cults? John Frum? If you are convinced that you have good evidence sourced from the Bible, here's a good analogy; Another resurrection story citing first hand eye witness accounts is Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs. I have a pretty good idea of how it happened. Not a complete picture of course, but enough to say that without Snow White, our childhood would be pretty Grimm. This story is well-known all over the world in many languages and we have original manuscripts and millions of copies are extant today. Here's how it goes;

1. Snow White had died and was resurrected when she was kissed by Prince Charming - My first hand eye-witness who was on scene immediately before and after the resurrection. It is well known by all scholars that he married Snow White and lived happily ever after. 
2. The Wicked Queen was a foe of Snow White, yet gave evidence that she knew Snow White had been resurrected. My second first hand eye-witness gave enemy attestation, which makes the story even more credible.
3. The magic mirror, "Mirror Mirror on the Wall..." The author of Snow White wouldn't invent anything that would embarrass him, so anything embarrassing in the tradition must be true. A magic mirror is obviously not true and an embarrassment to the story, so that adds credence and another first hand eye-witness.
4. We have Seven Dwarfs who all witnessed the amazing event and all these dwarfs are well known world wide by name - Doc, Grumpy, Sleepy, Bashful, Happy, Sneezy and Dopey

That brings the total of first hand eye-witnesses to 10, plus billions of people around the world that know of the same story. Secular evidence of the story is well documented throughout all offline and online media. Are your fictional stories any more believable than this one? I think not.
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RE: Why can't Christians Verify Exactly Where Jesus Was Buried? - by Firefighter01 - September 27, 2016 at 10:04 am

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