What computer do you have?

[Tiberius]

I am not moving any goalposts. You showed me an Amazon link that I cannot buy from, and I pointed out that there's nowhere that I, or for that matter anyone, knows where they can get a genuine battery from except from an Apple store where they have to pay for a way overpriced service. I did mention the battery is the part that wears out the fastest - do you dispute this?

A page showing you how to replace a battery is useless unless you can buy it in the first place. Show me where I can get a genuine Macbook battery for the cost of the part in Australia? As I mentioned, I'm not even convinced that your Amazon link is to a genuine dealer, it is most likely a recycled used battery.

Go read up on this and apply it to your objections: https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tool...-Goalposts

"Demanding from an opponent that he or she address more and more points after the initial counter-argument has been satisfied refusing to conceded or accept the opponent’s argument."

You said "User-serviceable means that you can replace the most common bits that wear out - in a laptop that's means the battery is the most important."

I linked to a website giving detailed instructions on how to replace the battery. That alone disproved your point.

You then complained about the fact that you had to ignore a warning sticker, and then said "...where are you going to buy a new battery from? You can't..."

I linked to Amazon where people are selling batteries for MacBooks. That again, disproved your new point about not being able to buy batteries.

You then complained that Amazon didn't ship those batteries to Australia.

So now, let's settle this once and for all shall we?

https://www.macfixit.com.au/apple-laptop-batteries

Boom. What's your next objection? Probably something even more ridiculous.

They aren't sold to Australia at all. But IF they were, by sea you would have to wait about 6 weeks. Do you think that's a reasonable time to wait while you can't use your computer?

https://www.macfixit.com.au/apple-laptop-batteries

Boom. Sold in Australia. Took me 5 seconds on Google.

No they aren't, they all conform to a standardised heuristic.

Bullshit they do. Pretty much the only standard these days is they have a touchpad and a keyboard. There are laptops out there with detachable screens, with touchscreens, with or without CD trays, etc.

Look, the point is, you shouldn't just assume some feature that exists on another laptop, or even most laptops, exists on some other laptop. That's why you list the specs alongside the laptop you are selling.

Tib, I'm older than you. When I was in early primary school (like year 2) we had monochrome Macs for crying out loud. You are now the one moving the goalpost - what I said is that in any decent high-end laptop the keyboard is liquid-resistant... meaning it drains away from the electronics. If it never comes in contact with the electronics then there's never a problem.

Like I said, I spill shit on my keyboard about once to twice a year. That's why I keep a spare $15 keyboard on hand. I've already spilt shit in this keyboard, and apart from the sticky F7 key it still works like new.

How am I moving the goalposts exactly? I'm not the one making the claim here; you are. I was the one who didn't want to get into an argument over features of laptops, and I still don't, so I'm ending that here.

It's not an opinion. If they did it once and then fixed their mistake it would be an opinion.
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So...a company is only allowed to make one mistake, and if they make the same or a similar mistake again, they must have done it on purpose, even if they later admit to making a mistake and pay for repairs for out-of-warranty devices. Got it. Just wanted to make sure I understand what fantasy world of yours we were living in.

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Oh I see. What about people with MS, or Parkinsons, or spina bifida, or cerebral palsy then?

They make up a fraction of the population. They aren't the norm. Most laptop users do not spill things on laptops.

If a person with MS, or Parkinsons, etc came to me and asked me to recommend them a laptop, and said they often spill things, then I wouldn't recommend a MacBook. That doesn't mean MacBooks are a bad choice for anyone else. They just clearly aren't a good choice for people who have a tendency to spill things.

Right, so no they can't because they can't get the batteries in the first place, and I'll explain this to you in detail. Whenever Apple finds out that one of their Chinese partners has been selling their batteries they cut them off. For that reason it is very difficult to find genuine importers who have genuine relationships with these companies to source the batteries direct.

Have legitimately linked you to places where you can buy batteries. Your continual denial of this blatant fact is scary.