Richard Carrier - The Hero Savior Analogy

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Adults saying you can't prove there isn't magic again?

Historical Jesus has nothing to do with magic, whatever ludicrous definition you use for it.

The mythicist position has nothing to do with refuting a magical man. Simple everyday scepticism should take care of that before you even start. And it's an opinion, ultimately. An evaluation of evidence, or lack thereof. You can say you disagree with an opinion, and you can say why, but you can't simply say an opinion is wrong. People's opinion are indeed their opinion, regardless of their truth. It's up to each person to make their case, where the actual truth is unknown.

If your opinion is that a HJ is supported in any meaningful way, I'd say I disagree; I wouldn't just say you're wrong. I'd say your opinion is not supported adequately by decent evidence, in my opinion. If you say a magical man is supported by evidence, I'd say you're incapable of applying basic scepticism consistently, but again I wouldn't say you're wrong. What you consider evidence is up to you.

I've already defined the mythicist position, but seeing as it's being strawmanned so painfully I'll repeat it:

Mythicism is the lack of belief that there is sufficient evidence to support a single, distinct historical figure upon which the stories have been based. If you lower the criteria so as to make the available evidence fit, you tend to most likely include hundreds of other people in your net, in my opinion. If there is a true HJ, the evidence does not support it. That's the position, as I see it.