RE: christian school project
October 4, 2016 at 8:25 am
(This post was last modified: October 4, 2016 at 8:28 am by I_am_not_mafia.)
Hi lighthouse.
But what exactly is "the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being." Does it have a body? Is it purely energy? Does it in exist in a different reality outside of this universe? How did it come about? How does it sense and interact with the world?
Anything else you can define in greater and greater detail. Like the ruler of a country is also a person, a human, you could describe their parentage and know their history. You know how they became ruler and how they enact rules. You can't do this with the concept of a god. It cannot be properly defined and there is no way which it can be. The very concept is unfalsifiable.
Everything since the big bang can be understood by science to a lesser or greater degree. How matter came from radiation, how this formed the first generation of stars which went super nova seeding space with heavier elements, how the second generation of stars formed with their planets and geology with chemical complexity, then biological, leading to evolution, human society and technological progress.
If a god sensed the world and interacted with it or listened to prayers, then it would have to do so using physical means. There is absolutely no hint that these mechanisms exist.
Which basically means that a god is largely irrelevant if all it did was create a big bang.
In terms of evidence rather than 100% proof. The chance of there being a god is so negligible that we might as well say that it cannot exist. We know of no means or scenario where complex patterns of energy can exist without the use of matter. We know of no situation where the laws of Thermodynamics do not apply, which means a god must be subject to entropy and decay, therefore cannot be eternal and therefore cannot be a god.
There are thousands of gods which people used to dedicate their lives to and now they don't. None of these gods exist either.
So in response to your OP and as a scientist, these are the things I would be interested in before even contemplating the morality of a nebulous concept.
(October 4, 2016 at 7:15 am)lighthouse Wrote: God is defined in many dictionaries as "the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being." so I guess we can define it.
But what exactly is "the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being." Does it have a body? Is it purely energy? Does it in exist in a different reality outside of this universe? How did it come about? How does it sense and interact with the world?
Anything else you can define in greater and greater detail. Like the ruler of a country is also a person, a human, you could describe their parentage and know their history. You know how they became ruler and how they enact rules. You can't do this with the concept of a god. It cannot be properly defined and there is no way which it can be. The very concept is unfalsifiable.
(October 4, 2016 at 7:15 am)lighthouse Wrote: Science is simply the explanation of how God works. The big bang is how God spoke the universe into existence.
Everything since the big bang can be understood by science to a lesser or greater degree. How matter came from radiation, how this formed the first generation of stars which went super nova seeding space with heavier elements, how the second generation of stars formed with their planets and geology with chemical complexity, then biological, leading to evolution, human society and technological progress.
If a god sensed the world and interacted with it or listened to prayers, then it would have to do so using physical means. There is absolutely no hint that these mechanisms exist.
Which basically means that a god is largely irrelevant if all it did was create a big bang.
(October 4, 2016 at 7:15 am)lighthouse Wrote: How can you disprove his existence if you never looked for him? Nothing is impossible in the science world so why is this?
In terms of evidence rather than 100% proof. The chance of there being a god is so negligible that we might as well say that it cannot exist. We know of no means or scenario where complex patterns of energy can exist without the use of matter. We know of no situation where the laws of Thermodynamics do not apply, which means a god must be subject to entropy and decay, therefore cannot be eternal and therefore cannot be a god.
(October 4, 2016 at 7:15 am)lighthouse Wrote: Nobody dedicates their lives to the tooth fairy or santa.
There are thousands of gods which people used to dedicate their lives to and now they don't. None of these gods exist either.
So in response to your OP and as a scientist, these are the things I would be interested in before even contemplating the morality of a nebulous concept.
