RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith
October 7, 2016 at 6:14 am
(This post was last modified: October 7, 2016 at 6:16 am by robvalue.)
Faith, as in belief based on solid evidence which makes the likelihood extremely high is totally different to faith about some unknown thing for which there is no credible evidence at all.
Everyone needs the former in order to function in the world. If you waited for absolute certainty, you'd be waiting forever. No one needs to believe in gods, based on flawed logical arguments and story books, in order to function.
Even if being a gnostic (strong as you call it) atheist requires faith, so what? I still don't get your point. Gnostic atheists are as unreasonable as theists? It's not a defence of your own position to say "You do it too!" Especially when it only applies to a very small subsection of atheists.
Even a gnostic atheist would usually consider any new evidence presented, however. A gnostic theist generally isn't interested in evidence, because there isn't any, and as such cannot logically review their position.
But thanks for conceding that some positions do not require faith. I do not need to be certain that there is no Yahweh, or Allah, in order to believe they don't exist. I carry on regardless. It is overwhelmingly likely they are fictional characters, which do not represent any actual creator accurately, if there is one. All my experience confirms this position.
Everyone needs the former in order to function in the world. If you waited for absolute certainty, you'd be waiting forever. No one needs to believe in gods, based on flawed logical arguments and story books, in order to function.
Even if being a gnostic (strong as you call it) atheist requires faith, so what? I still don't get your point. Gnostic atheists are as unreasonable as theists? It's not a defence of your own position to say "You do it too!" Especially when it only applies to a very small subsection of atheists.
Even a gnostic atheist would usually consider any new evidence presented, however. A gnostic theist generally isn't interested in evidence, because there isn't any, and as such cannot logically review their position.
But thanks for conceding that some positions do not require faith. I do not need to be certain that there is no Yahweh, or Allah, in order to believe they don't exist. I carry on regardless. It is overwhelmingly likely they are fictional characters, which do not represent any actual creator accurately, if there is one. All my experience confirms this position.
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