(April 16, 2009 at 3:52 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(April 16, 2009 at 3:08 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Firstly you could have fooled me because you have participated actively in several threads which have had science based content ... furthermore I wasn't actually talking about discussing the scientific method per se (although it may come up). Secondly I know a lot more about god/s than you want to admit and that you don't like what I say doesn't equate to a refusal to discuss the subject. Thirdly that we have discussed something already isn't the point; the point is the formalised discussion of the subject at hand and how a debate of that format will pan out.I'm interested in science, but profess no knowledge of the subject. My interests here are purely philosophical.
All I can say is that I have a very good idea exactly how my first post will form up so I am very, very prepared to debate this subject ... if you are not then please feel free to suggest something else.
As are mine, we just happen to disagree over what true philosophy is.
(April 16, 2009 at 3:52 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I have no doubt you have considerable head knowledge of various deities and religious dogma. This knowledge being non debatable to you I understand. You have said more than once, I think, that you don't wish to discuss the subject wider than this. Philosophy, for example, is beyond your interest.
Again no, I am interested in philosophy, that I happen to disagree with you over the value of abstract philosophical thought is another issue entirely.
(April 16, 2009 at 3:52 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You haven't discussed the subject of evidence, you've consistently and uniquely pleaded non understanding of my point. I've explained myself in countless ways and you still plead that I haven't answered you. As far as I can see you stubbornly refuse to consider the idea, for no apparent reason. It'd be dull if you just kept that up.
I HAVE discussed the subject of evidence, I just disagree with you on what constitutes evidence.
(April 16, 2009 at 3:52 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: From the subject title you've chosen I don't really know where you want to go with this. I'm not really interested in evidence of God's existence. It ranks way down there off my radar, to be honest. It is of high interest to non believers I grant you. You kid yourself though if you think it's of much interest to me. I will still discuss this if you really want to though.
Then suggest something different ... I want to discuss that in particular because I believe there is much to gain from a formal debate.
(April 16, 2009 at 3:52 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(April 16, 2009 at 3:08 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Even though I wasn't planning on using my own material verbatim, I have to ask if that's fair? I mean my own archives, whilst comprehensive, are my own thoughts and are no different in principle than using one's own education and experience ... would I ask that you don't use anything you have learned?
Only problem with that is it lets you off the hook when in the interest of debate live thoughts are precisely relevant where past thoughts never truly are. Of course we draw on our experiences when forming opinions. I think of your opinions as set in stone as it is. I don't think it would make you look plausible quoting from your own personal bible.
My own personal bible? Don't you mean comprehensive answers I have taken a considerable time to research and understand? I can only assume that the reason you do not want me to use my own resources is because you fear what I am capable of with them.
Now, I was rather under the impression you had agreed to debate ... if so on what subject? Are we going to debate or are you chickening out?
Kyu.
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