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What to say when somebody asks about the big bang
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RE: What to say when somebody asks about the big bang
(October 17, 2016 at 10:48 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(October 17, 2016 at 9:51 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Most simplistically: Pure, absolute existence/substance/all-ness. In deference to the universe which is dominated by void space and very very very little actual extant substance.

The state of equilibrium in an infinite "particle" before the symmetry break that results in it's expression as finite wave forms aka universes.  It still exists outside, above and below all the infinite universes.

For further specificity I label that "GOD" and it remains outside the void space universe. "God" is the finite self individuation/"only begotten son" that remains inside the universe.  Which wold have been the being born as Jesus.

You're defining your god here as everything, and nothing, simultaneously -- because the one is the other, when you sit down and think about it.

And you'll need to explicate exactly what you mean by "symmetry break", and how the "state of equilibrium" in an "infinite particle" results in "finite waveforms". Or, alternatively, you can simply plead to saladry.

Sounds to me more like you don't know yourself what you're talking about, and are just stringing words along to make your pretty feelings sound smart, too. If you want to call this god-thingy "ineffable", just get a goddamned thesaurus, look the word up, and be done with it.

But -- know that "ineffable" is a non-definition.

There is no "nothing" in my model, it is not required. Something is not nothing and nothing is not something. One is not the other unless you want to kick the law of non-contradiction right in the kibbles.

The only place I require "ineffable" as in "indescribable" is for the subjective state of the original mass aka it's mind/person/spirit. It is also not required to unfold the physical/objective/logical model of how this mass breaks symmetry and makes universes. Everything required is inherent in it extant objective nature as observed by a subjective consciousness, GOD's, you's, mine, or otherwise.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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What to say when somebody asks about the big bang - by zak - October 16, 2016 at 7:33 am
RE: What to say when somebody asks about the big bang - by Arkilogue - October 17, 2016 at 11:18 pm

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