RE: Conflicting Thoughts
October 18, 2016 at 5:46 am
(This post was last modified: October 18, 2016 at 6:01 am by Monalisa Dey.)
(October 16, 2016 at 12:46 pm)abaris Wrote:Its so true like I too was raised to believe that do good and good things will happen to you.. IM dog was my soulmate.. its ridiculous I know but its true.. She was just a baby.. 2 years old.. some complications with her surgery and boom she had a stroke and she died..(October 16, 2016 at 12:22 pm)Monalisa Dey Wrote: Sometimes I feel so guilty.. Maybe I am wrong..
Just recently I lost my dog.. and people say that if you pray to god n be good then he listens to you..
You know, I can relate. Not on the guilty part but on the dog part. I try to be a decent person. That's how I was brought up. So if there was any god worth his money, he certainly would take that into account. More so than going through the motions.
If there was a vengeful beast, like some of our users seem to believe, the motions might get you some brownie points. But such a being wouldn't be worth worshipping, wouldn't it?
Somehow I felt its my fault.. cz it was me who wanted to get that surgery.. I dont really think that god exists.. otherwise how come bad people thrive and good people suffer..
(October 17, 2016 at 3:47 am)Rhythm Wrote:(October 17, 2016 at 2:42 am)Monalisa Dey Wrote: No but I have been taught that when someone dies his/her spirit needs to be put at peace and the only way to do that is praying.
Anyone ever explain to you how that's supposed to work (or why it can work no other way...why, without prayer, there is no peace?), or did they leave it at the status of a "just so" story?
No one ever explained anything to me .. hindus believe that god is actually looking don on us.. watching and deciding whether we go to hell or to heaven.. bull shit.. some ppl say that the moment they enter a temple, they find eace.. I have been to thousands of temples and I have never felt anything diff than what I normally feel.. I mean some idols are there and tthey always have a crazy story about how these idols were actually given to them through their dreams and stuff.. really it is all so artificial..
people donate thousands of money and food and other stuff to idols when the dogs outside the temple look upon.. I mean its outrageous and ridiculous..
people in India pay lakhs of money to pour milk on the idols of Lord shiva thinking that he will actually drink those.. ufhhh the idiocracy..
(October 16, 2016 at 1:19 pm)Aroura Wrote: Monalisa, I'm sorry to hear about your struggles. A lot of people around here have experienced something similar. You lose belief while those around you retain it, it's hard to know what to do or say. You may be wondering how much to share with your family, and worrying that they will disown you if you say anything at all.
The only advice I might try and give you is to look at your religious teachings for the philosophical meanings. Strip out the gods and the magic, and try and find the things about it that do help. Perhaps it teaches focus on family, forgiveness, or other ways to try and lead a happier and more fulfilled life. This may allow you to retain your own thoughts, like lack of belief in those supernatural things, but also not lose your family or get into trouble.
Best wishes to you!!
Yes thank you so much
.. I do try to do that always.. I pay more attention to living beings than idols(October 16, 2016 at 1:53 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Welcome!
Don't feel guilty, just feel different.
Condolences for your loss. It certainly would be easier if dogs had a longer life span.
She was just a baby.. 2 years of age.. and she was my soulmate..
I do feel different.. In like most of the things I always find myself thinking differently..
No one to support me though..
(October 17, 2016 at 8:04 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Hindu religion is for very compassionate individuals. It takea alot of stress endurance to live by this stuff.HAHA yes hinduism is for very traditional people.. who believe what they read in Gita and Mahabharata..
For example, something bad happens. Answer: its your fault, its your karma, so, dont be angry, its basically YOUR fault, you just done mistakes in previous life which you dont remember, but believe me, rule of karma exists.
And worship God or you will suffer in this lifetime for abandoning faith in the pure goodness that is Gods will.
When I heard about those main points of yoga, I couldn't even imagine to live by them.
Karma is again a very confusing thing.. I really dont know that any proof is there that it exists..
(October 16, 2016 at 2:03 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:(October 16, 2016 at 1:08 pm)Monalisa Dey Wrote: No i mean people say that if you are good and honest then your life will be happy and you will be blessed by god [edit]
Why do you need a god to be good and honest? Or a god to be happy?
You may be better off rejecting the programming and make your life happy on your own, in your own way.
No gid came and told me to be honest or good.. No god has made me happy..
My dogs make me happy.. reading books make me happy.. Infact if I try to follow the rules and instructions stated in the religious books then trust me I will never be happy..
तुम जिन्न या भूत नहीं।
कहीं से आये नहीं। किसी ने भेजा नहीं।
किसी ने सोच-समझ कर तुम्हें गढा नहीं।
न तुम आकाश से टपके हो,
न शून्य से प्रकटे हो।
तुम अपने माता-पिता के शरीर से उगे हो – अनायास
कहीं से आये नहीं। किसी ने भेजा नहीं।
किसी ने सोच-समझ कर तुम्हें गढा नहीं।
न तुम आकाश से टपके हो,
न शून्य से प्रकटे हो।
तुम अपने माता-पिता के शरीर से उगे हो – अनायास
