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Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali.
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RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali.
Alasdair, thanks for the conversation.

Let us explain it this way. I think if an ultimate being exists, that it is praiseworthy. Not only is it praiseworthy, but it is praiseworthy in the most exalted way.

That said, in this case, it cannot lack a praise. That means all praise is found in it. Now in my mind, and tell me if you disagree, it being the most valuable thing my definition, the best way and fastest way of leading towards praise would be to direct a relationship with him and recognition of him.

Think of how much you value you relationships with lesser beings in creation. God being the ultimate being, a relationship with him would be the ultimate gift to humanity.

Now while most of humanity intuitively knows an ultimate being exists, I argue, that it must guide us upon a path that lead towards him.  I further argue, that an ultimate being would not create potential except for to reach it's full potential. And it would create maximum potential because it is great.

A being that doesn't care about the guidance of humanity,  is not being worthy of worship. And as for system, I refer to the world as his design.

That said, I understand from an Atheist perspective, we have no link to objective morality nor can we prove it. Nor have a link to God. 

But I'm not proving everything about morality, I am proving some intuitive things we know.

A being that creates a system that only misguides, and doesn't guide to the truth, is not a being worthy of worship.

When I say God exists, I mean the perfect absolute being which can be known to a degree.
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Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by MysticKnight - October 28, 2016 at 10:52 pm
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by Mudhammam - October 28, 2016 at 11:24 pm
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by Angrboda - October 29, 2016 at 12:36 am
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by abaris - October 29, 2016 at 3:42 am
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by chimp3 - October 29, 2016 at 3:45 am
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by robvalue - October 29, 2016 at 4:15 am
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by LastPoet - October 29, 2016 at 4:22 am
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by Jesster - October 29, 2016 at 4:42 am
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by chimp3 - October 29, 2016 at 5:08 am
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by Alex K - October 29, 2016 at 11:55 am
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by Cato - October 29, 2016 at 12:08 pm
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by Cyberman - October 29, 2016 at 4:56 pm
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by Cato - October 29, 2016 at 12:53 pm
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by robvalue - October 29, 2016 at 1:22 pm
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by brewer - October 29, 2016 at 3:53 pm
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by Jesster - October 29, 2016 at 4:53 pm
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by chimp3 - October 29, 2016 at 11:25 pm
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by robvalue - October 30, 2016 at 3:47 am
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by MysticKnight - October 30, 2016 at 5:36 pm
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by Cato - October 30, 2016 at 7:23 pm
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by Cato - October 30, 2016 at 8:52 pm
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by Expired - October 30, 2016 at 7:31 pm
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by Expired - October 30, 2016 at 7:36 pm
RE: Proof of the guidance of Mohammad and Ali. - by Cyberman - October 30, 2016 at 7:43 pm

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