RE: Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris
November 4, 2016 at 2:27 pm
(This post was last modified: November 4, 2016 at 2:46 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
@Mathilda
He's assuming that we will continue to improve our intelligent machines, which he plainly states, and I conveniently sourced for you word for word...not the rate at which we will improve them. He specifically addresses each of the objections you just listed in that video, I'm afraid you've may have been utterly preempted.......50 years from now, 500, 5000...he specifically states that the problem isn't related to time or immanence, it's a potential problem now, then, or whenever.
If intelligence is information processing in physical systems (1), and if we continue to improve our intelligent machines (2), and if we are not near the summit of intelligence (3)...then isn't a machine smarter than a human being an eventuality, ruling out those things he specifically mentioned and acknowledged that might cause us to stop attempting or succeeding at (2)..that you inexplicably think he omits despite it being at the very beginning of the presentation?
As to some of the objections you fielded that cme ut of left field? Problems of computation time..okay, sure, but is intelligence one of them..because it seems like an unguided process of trial and error managed to produce intelligence in a hell of alot less time than all of the time in the universe....so?
He's assuming that we will continue to improve our intelligent machines, which he plainly states, and I conveniently sourced for you word for word...not the rate at which we will improve them. He specifically addresses each of the objections you just listed in that video, I'm afraid you've may have been utterly preempted.......50 years from now, 500, 5000...he specifically states that the problem isn't related to time or immanence, it's a potential problem now, then, or whenever.
Quote:He talks about the AI being an extension of ourselves and plugging into our brains and its values. He is making assumptions about the form of AI.When, can I get a timestamp?
Quote:I really want to go into this in more detail but there's just so much wrong with what Harris has said it's just too long for a single post.Well, whatever you're talking about is either not in the particular video we're discussing, or you're just strawmanning the shit out of the guy.
If intelligence is information processing in physical systems (1), and if we continue to improve our intelligent machines (2), and if we are not near the summit of intelligence (3)...then isn't a machine smarter than a human being an eventuality, ruling out those things he specifically mentioned and acknowledged that might cause us to stop attempting or succeeding at (2)..that you inexplicably think he omits despite it being at the very beginning of the presentation?
As to some of the objections you fielded that cme ut of left field? Problems of computation time..okay, sure, but is intelligence one of them..because it seems like an unguided process of trial and error managed to produce intelligence in a hell of alot less time than all of the time in the universe....so?
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