Explaining the fact that we exist

[purplepurpose]

Even if we worked off the assumption that it was "good" to suffer for higher goals, that wouldn't make any direct transference to religion, lending it some sort of auithenticity, unless it was a "higher goal"...and from where I sit, it's in the gutter, not the loft.  

Meanwhile, if you wanted to suffer for "higher goals"...I'm sure you could find more than a few worthy causes laying around.  Personally, I don;t have a problem with service.  I;ve served and suffered for it.  I still suffer for it.  I will for the rest of my life.  So this notion of yours as regards why people don't like religion or the gods of religion...probably not true.  Certainly not, in my case.

You could just -ask- me why, for example, I couldn't and wouldn't be a christian, rather than parrot a tired god-bothering line about defiance and unsuitability for service or pain, lol.  Meanwhile, the christers don't seem to think that believing in their god is painful, quite the opposite.  It's uplifting.  It helps them to -overcome- pain.  I'm finding it difficult to see how you could even be close to right on this from any angle.

Strangly enough, many ex believers describe their last days in the church as "I couldnt take this level of fear, obligation and guilt anymore".