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Trump is waffling on the wall.
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RE: Trump is waffling on the wall.
You think it was just a few hundred?  

Quote:Between 1950 and 1988, around 4 million East Germans migrated to the West. 3.454 million of them left between 1950 and the construction of the [/font][/color]Berlin Wall in 1961. The great majority simply walked across the border or, after 1952, exited through West Berlin. After the border was fortified and the Berlin Wall was constructed, the number of illegal border crossings fell drastically. The numbers fell further as the border defenses were improved over the subsequent decades. In 1961, 8,507 people fled across the border, most of them through West Berlin. The construction of the Berlin Wall that year reduced the number of escapees by 75% to around 2,300 per annum for the rest of the decade. The Wall changed Berlin from being one of the easiest places to cross the border, from the East, to being one of the most difficult. The number of escapees fell further to 868 per annum during the 1970s and to only 334 per annum between 1980 and 1988. However, escapees were never more than a small minority of the total number of emigrants from East Germany. Far more people left the country after being granted official permits, by fleeing through third countries or by being ransomed by the West German government. During the 1980s, only about 1% of those who left East Germany did so by escaping across the border.[2][/size][/color]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_att...man_border
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See, again...the iron curtain and subsequent wall had a hell of a psychological effect on you.  You thought it worked alot better than it did. Notice that it doesn't reference cross wall and cross border black markets..which thrived, and goes on to explain how the much larger number than you thought it was... was only a marginal fraction of the overall number of people who fled by going through other points in other countries or by other means. Their wall never worked, and our wall would never work for the very same reasons. The black market would thrive not in spite of it, but because of it..and anyone who wished would either defeat the wall itself...or simply go around it...regardless of the fact that our wall, if built, would be longer than any -actual- wall built along the iron curtain. If we built our 2k mile mexican wall...we'd very soon realize that we required a 5k mile canadian wall....just to stop mexicans. Then, after we built that wall, we'd need 100k miles of coastal wall...mexicans are familiar with the concept of a boat, and even if we could (we can;t) and did build -allll- of this wall, and maintained killzones everywhere.... it still wouldn't stop the drug trade, or mexicans getting over it.

Though I don;t know -why- they'd want to get over it, if we squandered our wealth and promise in such a way in the first place, lol. To get a job building all that wall and shooting at mexicans? Ask yourself this...how many people were crossing the soviet walls, insomuch as they existed...to get in?
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Trump is waffling on the wall. - by Manowar - November 11, 2016 at 12:36 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by Silver - November 11, 2016 at 12:38 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by abaris - November 11, 2016 at 12:40 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by brewer - November 11, 2016 at 1:31 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by Tonus - November 11, 2016 at 2:57 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by Pat Mustard - November 11, 2016 at 6:18 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 11, 2016 at 12:52 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by abaris - November 11, 2016 at 12:55 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 11, 2016 at 1:07 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by Faith No More - November 11, 2016 at 1:03 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by abaris - November 11, 2016 at 1:07 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by Faith No More - November 11, 2016 at 5:59 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 11, 2016 at 1:33 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 11, 2016 at 1:05 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 1:09 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by abaris - November 11, 2016 at 1:11 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by LastPoet - November 11, 2016 at 1:18 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by LastPoet - November 11, 2016 at 1:18 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by Aroura - November 11, 2016 at 1:20 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by abaris - November 11, 2016 at 1:23 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by Aroura - November 11, 2016 at 1:29 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by abaris - November 11, 2016 at 1:34 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 1:22 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 1:23 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 1:32 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by Aroura - November 11, 2016 at 1:45 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by Excited Penguin - November 11, 2016 at 1:50 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by abaris - November 11, 2016 at 1:56 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 1:51 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by Excited Penguin - November 11, 2016 at 1:52 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 2:06 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by abaris - November 11, 2016 at 2:12 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by Aroura - November 11, 2016 at 2:33 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by abaris - November 11, 2016 at 2:37 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 2:20 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by abaris - November 11, 2016 at 2:25 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 2:30 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by abaris - November 11, 2016 at 2:33 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by Minimalist - November 11, 2016 at 2:39 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 11, 2016 at 2:52 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by abaris - November 11, 2016 at 2:56 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 2:55 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 11, 2016 at 7:23 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by abaris - November 11, 2016 at 7:25 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 11, 2016 at 7:37 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by abaris - November 11, 2016 at 7:40 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 3:00 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by Doubting Thomas - November 11, 2016 at 3:05 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 3:20 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by abaris - November 11, 2016 at 3:24 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 3:26 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by abaris - November 11, 2016 at 3:32 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 6:03 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by AceBoogie - November 11, 2016 at 6:15 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by abaris - November 11, 2016 at 6:19 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by AceBoogie - November 11, 2016 at 6:23 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by Faith No More - November 11, 2016 at 7:30 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by abaris - November 11, 2016 at 7:33 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 6:20 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 7:33 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 7:39 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 7:40 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by Faith No More - November 11, 2016 at 8:47 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 12, 2016 at 12:10 am
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by Drich - November 14, 2016 at 12:55 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2016 at 12:57 pm
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by CWoods - November 15, 2016 at 12:47 am
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall. - by vorlon13 - November 15, 2016 at 2:25 am

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