(November 12, 2016 at 12:54 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(November 12, 2016 at 12:49 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: 1) Can women not vote? Can women not go outside without a man?
Yes, those are the only metrics of equality. What was I thinking?!
(November 12, 2016 at 12:49 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: The words on paper are the framework of this government. That's why we had to change from the "Articles of Confederation" to the "Constitution".
Yes, and you know what those words on paper did for the Nisei in 1941? Not a goddamned thing. You know what those words did for black under Jim Crow? Not a goddamned thing. You're naive beyond belief if you think a written guarantee is a "right". I'll ignore your comment about the change from AoC to the Constitution, because it's not germane to the topic.
(November 12, 2016 at 12:49 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: 2) I said "Now it only does more harm". In America atleast.
Ah, I see. You have an arbitrary cut-off point. Pray tell, when in your mind did feminism become obsolete, and why?
1) Of course they are merits of equality. Women have equality, because of paper that the majority follows.
If it is not followed, the ones in power (The Gov't) will punish. Paper or words, the majority and the most powerful rules and we must follow their creed.
2) Well the majority didn't seem to agree with it, (Sorry, I don't know much about the Nisei, could you clarify?) and the change from the AoC to the Constitution just shows that if those words weren't altered to create a different framework for the government things would have gone differently.
3) Feminism became obsolete when women had gotten rights. If you think words on paper (decided by the majority and the powerful) don't have meaning, that apparently means women have less rights? No. It would mean they have different rights. So that would mean that men also have some problems to? Yeah. Stereotypes such as women don't lie about rape ("Take all accusations of rape against women by men to be true!") would be set into motion. Because certainly a lot of people see women as victims.
The majority doesn't see women as tools or sub-human. So if the words on paper don't have meaning. The thoughts of the majority certainly do.
