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Any anti-feminists? Any feminists?
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists?
(November 12, 2016 at 5:39 pm)ScienceAf Wrote:
(November 12, 2016 at 1:23 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Hey, could you find me the spot in the Constitution where everyone has the right to equal pay for equal work?

You can't find it, because it's not in there. But is certainly one inequality that feminism helped to ameliorate -- although it still exists, particularly with regard to race.


You seem to think I'm arguing that words are meaningless, I'm not. It's important to have rights enumerated legally. But that doesn't guarantee rights in practice.

I'm pretty sure, by the way, that the majority of Americans agreed with both Jim Crow and interning Japanese in the camps.


Yeah, that's kinda the point, you know. Equal rights, not different. You're mounting a pretty incoherent argument here: feminism is obsolete because women have different rights than men. Equal rights means that all people share the same panoply of rights regardless of race, gender, sexuality, religion or lack thereof, etc.


Why are you introducing this into this conversation? It's entirely irrelevant.


No one said the majority sees them any way at all.


Leaving aside the fact that I didn't say "words on paper have no meaning", the fact is that if your good treatment is dependent upon majority opinion, that is not a right at all.

1) Sure, it's not in the constitution, but when we needed feminism it helped (along with other movements) lead to the "Civil rights act of 1964". And of course not everyone deserves equal pay. There's qualifications to be met.

2) I meant that the majority didn't and after a while through protests, movements, etc, they came to a change in mind.

3) I'm saying if the claim was true then the rights would have been different rather than less. But we have equal rights.

4) Forgot why.

5) Exactly

6) Well there is no objective opinion and the majority can not always be justified, however the majority sees women as equal and the majority/gov't holds the power.

P.S
What's your definition of equality?
What rights do men have that women don't?

I'm on my.phone right now. I'll answer this post when I'm home on my laptop.

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Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 12:55 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Alex K - November 12, 2016 at 1:09 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 12:23 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 12, 2016 at 1:15 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Alex K - November 12, 2016 at 1:25 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by LastPoet - November 12, 2016 at 7:44 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 12:29 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 12:25 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 12, 2016 at 12:44 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 12:49 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 12, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 1:04 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 12, 2016 at 1:23 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 5:39 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 12, 2016 at 7:47 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 1:27 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Athene - November 12, 2016 at 1:36 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Bob Kelso - November 12, 2016 at 1:37 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Doubting Thomas - November 12, 2016 at 1:42 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 12:33 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 12, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 12, 2016 at 12:59 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 1:15 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by account_inactive - November 12, 2016 at 2:17 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Athene - November 12, 2016 at 3:42 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 12:34 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Athene - November 12, 2016 at 5:21 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 5:24 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Mermaid - November 12, 2016 at 5:56 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 6:00 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Mermaid - November 12, 2016 at 6:31 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 6:39 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 13, 2016 at 1:32 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 13, 2016 at 11:47 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Athene - November 12, 2016 at 7:35 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 13, 2016 at 12:08 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Regina - November 12, 2016 at 4:20 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Homeless Nutter - November 12, 2016 at 6:04 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 12, 2016 at 12:37 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 1:23 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 13, 2016 at 12:15 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 13, 2016 at 12:18 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 12:38 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Homeless Nutter - November 12, 2016 at 1:11 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 1:18 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Mermaid - November 12, 2016 at 9:53 am
Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by LadyForCamus - November 12, 2016 at 12:39 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 12:43 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 12, 2016 at 12:55 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 2:40 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 5:41 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by LastPoet - November 12, 2016 at 2:59 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Alex K - November 12, 2016 at 3:36 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 5:25 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 5:25 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 5:42 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 5:45 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 5:46 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 5:48 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Tiberius - November 12, 2016 at 5:37 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 5:41 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 5:42 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 5:45 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 5:46 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 5:49 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 5:51 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by account_inactive - November 12, 2016 at 5:47 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Tiberius - November 12, 2016 at 5:47 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 5:50 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 5:49 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 5:51 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 5:52 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 5:54 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 5:55 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by account_inactive - November 12, 2016 at 5:53 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 5:55 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by account_inactive - November 12, 2016 at 5:57 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 5:58 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 5:59 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 6:01 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 6:02 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 6:04 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 6:05 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 6:06 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 6:09 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 6:40 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 6:41 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 6:44 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 6:45 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 6:49 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Bob Kelso - November 13, 2016 at 12:42 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 13, 2016 at 4:07 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Bob Kelso - November 14, 2016 at 12:59 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 5:52 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 5:53 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by account_inactive - November 12, 2016 at 5:56 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 5:57 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by account_inactive - November 12, 2016 at 5:58 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 6:12 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 6:38 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 6:39 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 6:40 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 6:42 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 6:45 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 6:46 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 6:51 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 6:49 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 6:51 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by account_inactive - November 12, 2016 at 6:51 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 6:52 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 6:53 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 6:51 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 6:54 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 12, 2016 at 6:55 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 6:56 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Excited Penguin - November 12, 2016 at 8:30 pm
Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by LadyForCamus - November 12, 2016 at 9:48 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 13, 2016 at 12:10 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Iroscato - November 12, 2016 at 10:28 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 13, 2016 at 12:11 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2016 at 3:55 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 13, 2016 at 11:54 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Gemini - November 13, 2016 at 7:07 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Whateverist - November 13, 2016 at 9:22 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 13, 2016 at 11:50 am
Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by LadyForCamus - November 13, 2016 at 9:06 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 13, 2016 at 12:00 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Mermaid - November 13, 2016 at 9:54 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 13, 2016 at 11:48 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Mermaid - November 13, 2016 at 1:02 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by chimp3 - November 13, 2016 at 10:13 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2016 at 1:04 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by ScienceAf - November 13, 2016 at 2:24 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2016 at 3:37 pm
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by TaraJo - November 14, 2016 at 9:42 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Faith No More - November 14, 2016 at 9:47 am
RE: Any anti-feminists? Any feminists? - by Edwardo Piet - November 14, 2016 at 9:50 am

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