RE: On Moral Authorities
November 16, 2016 at 10:19 am
(This post was last modified: November 16, 2016 at 10:21 am by robvalue.)
(November 16, 2016 at 9:41 am)theologian Wrote:(November 16, 2016 at 9:24 am)robvalue Wrote: How can rape be evil if God says it is good? That's not a contradiction. It's good, and not evil, because God says so. Unless there is some way of deciding what is good/evil external to God, then "good" and "evil" are just arbitrary labels he gives things. If there is in fact a way of determing it external to God, then his word is not required.
Atheism has nothing to do with science. Science does not say "There is no God". You're drawing up a system of strawmen.
Are you telling me you need God to tell you what is right and wrong? I consider what is best for human and animal wellbeing, and then use reason. I don't need God to think for me.
So which is it? Is something good because God says it is good, or is God just really good at spotting what is good? Can you choose one and stick to it?
But, does God say rape is good? To the contrary, God says love your neighbor.
Now, what's wrong basing morality from God Whom is the Perfect Being? Or, it is just that atheism are biased against Him? Any other reason aside from being biased? For, if morality is based from God's will, then it will just be arbitrary according to you, as if God is like human whose will may be arbitrary.
If you will not consider God in your morality, then your morality is subjective. If your morality is subjective, then you don't have the right to be protected based from your subjective opinion, as that is equal to imposing one's opinion to others. Hence, if you are used as a fish bait, you cannot appeal to your subjective morality to be saved from being used. That is just your opinion, if God will not be considered.
You don't know what God says. You read books, and people tell you things. Rape, in the bible, is often nothing more than a property crime. And sometimes God simply allowed people to do it to the survivors of cities his "people" pillaged. Slavery is also permitted.
Yes, my morality is subjective. But I'm not imposing my opinion on anyone. I own my morality as subjective. I make arguments as to why my morality is the way it is. If I'm used as fish bait, it doesn't much matter what my opinion of it is, does it? Morality doesn't save you from things happening to you. I think murder is wrong, but I can still be murdered.
Your morality is also subjective; it is god's opinion. You have chosen that reference point. I use my opinion instead.
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