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On Moral Authorities

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RE: On Moral Authorities

November 16, 2016 at 10:37 am (This post was last modified: November 16, 2016 at 10:58 am by robvalue.)

Well, my version of the dilemma is pretty simple:

Does "what God wants" always align with "what is best for our wellbeing" or not?

If yes, the fact that he is God is irrelevant. He just happens to want us to do what we do anyway. He's like an expert analyst or something, nothing more.

If no, then you are compromising the wellbeing of people in order to please this God.

If anyone wants to tell me how that's a false dichotomy, I'm all ears.

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