(November 16, 2016 at 3:42 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: To be clear, I support refugees coming in. The discussion is not about refugees. At least not on my end.
Many people mix all the categories up into one big mash to suit their needs. They don't make distinctions and the fear mongerers don't want them to. It's their political ticket after all.
Many countries, or their leaders rather, have their pants full because of populous sentiment. Some leaders are just despicable little men, such as Orban, inciting and instrumentalising hate even more to change some political dime. They're also not interested in a real debate or in making distinctions. And on top of that they reveal themselves to be cherry pickers, such as being totally illoyal towards a union they collect their subsidies from. To the detriment of the poorest states on the continent.
So, there are quite a few points to consider. First, refugees will come. It's up to the authorities to determine their legal status as refugees. It's up to the governments to create an environment that is within the limits of international laws and humanism. It's also up to them to hold the despicable little creatures in check, who add insult to injury when calling refugees all kinds of names. That they do doesn't come out of the blue. Someone with an agenda invented all the slurs we can even observe on this very board. They didn't invent them. They just felt as if they could finally direct their ire at the most helpless by resorting to witty comments. Witty in their perception. Something from a clogged toilet for anyone having a shred of human decency left.
Secondly, illegals will come. There's a real industry thriving on the myth of a better life up north. It's usually up north. Most of them are disillusioned after the first months having spent in the supposed paradise they spent their life savings to reach. Many of them go back after coming to that conclusion.
Third, I'm still waiting for anyone telling me what harm illegals actually do. Is anyone waiting for finally landing a job scrubbing the toilets? Or to slave away on the fields in some remote province for a pittance? To work as an orderly in a hospital? On the other hand these people are consumers. Have to be since they have to eat. But they got no social security, which is an even bigger issue in Europe than it is in America. So they don't get anything out of the system. If they lose their jobs, the state doesn't provide, since they're under the radar. Again, it's just a narrative invented by someone cashing in some political dimes or by someone not wanting for anyone to take a closer look at the real problems.