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☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
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RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
(November 19, 2016 at 1:11 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(November 19, 2016 at 11:47 am)The Joker Wrote: I appreciate your point, but I am having trouble accepting that common argument from atheists, when getting deep into the cosmological argument "It doesn't mean God did it, so I lack belief in God".

This is False dilemma, The problem I see.

If it can be proven that we didn't come here by an accident by mindless dumb products of evolution without meaning or purpose, then we obviously know God did it, But the atheist may say "BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN GOD DID IT Just because we didn't come here by an accident through chance of evolution!" Well in that case if you prefer not to use the term "God," you may simply call him/it: "The Extremely Powerful, Uncaused, Necessarily Existing, Non-Contingent, Non-Physical, Immaterial, Eternal Being Who Created the Entire Universe...And Everything In It." With a meaning and a purpose to life.

Well here's your problem.

The alternative to evolution is not god but just something other than evolution.

In order to get some traction for your god idea you'd have to do more than just say god did it you'd have to say how god did it , what process did it use how did it do it. Why all the excess sperm and wasted ova if its all directed. Why in fact make it look for all the world like it is a process of natural selection.

You'd also have to prove that god was a thing before you can show it did something.

God  is like an invisible six foot rabbit that lives in my house and eats all the biscuits.
The biscuits keep going but I'm sure there's a better explanation.

Thanks, An alternative natural process will still fall into the category of "we came by an accident". Furthermore there are two types of magic. Type 1 and Type 2. Type 1 is is a "Magic trick" it seems like a magic but it is fake and Type 2 is a "Supernatural Magic done by a spirit".  Spirit Magic is a real phenomena whereas fake magic like tricks are fake. We have not found any natural process other than evolution you are placing your hope in blind faith in the hope that other natural explanations will come along in the future, we can't go beyond what we know. But above all, why would think that evolution is true?

(November 19, 2016 at 11:57 am)Jesster Wrote: Making yet another thread with the same flawed argument does not make it any less flawed.
Point dismissed on saying this is flawed, as no reason given.
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RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it" - by The Joker - November 19, 2016 at 1:53 pm

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