Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: June 8, 2026, 5:11 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
(November 20, 2016 at 6:22 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: You see - I grew up in the country-side. Your highly technical talk about them dogs and cows, strewn with all this advanced farming jargon, don't intimidate me, son. But I also paid attention in school

There's the problem, at least in parts of the USA. The pressure from creationists limits a lot of the teaching of evolution so that many teachers --even when they are free to teach the subject-- prefer to steer around it. I think that in my time in school I may have heard the subject broached once or twice and never in any degree of detail. Even in liberal NYC, science/biology teachers seemed to want to avoid the hassle of even mentioning the subject. So for many Americans, our understanding of evolution is whatever snippets we get from TV or --more likely-- from the pulpit.

For a long time, my understanding of evolution was that a species was a stable point along a developmental path, and that transitions were just that-- creatures that were somewhere between point A and point B and not well adapted for anything, requiring a cascade of quick and super-convenient mutations to occur in order to reach point B and avoid extinction. Thus a lizard might birth offspring with feathers instead of scales, and unless successive generations quickly birthed feathered lizards with hollow bones and toothless beaks we would not end up with birds and the lizards would die off. Which is why you see evolution satirized in this manner by people like Ray Comfort. His approach works because it attacks the incorrect version of evolution that many people believe, and not an actual understanding of evolution. The more ignorant people are about a subject the easier it is to compare it to ideas that are insane, and to make the insane ideas appear to be the only viable option.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it" - by Tonus - November 20, 2016 at 8:56 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Five Things She Doesn't Like About Atheists AFTT47 33 2511 April 1, 2026 at 4:02 pm
Last Post: Fake Messiah
  Science and Theism Doesn't Work out right? Hellomate1234 28 6507 November 7, 2024 at 8:12 am
Last Post: syntheticadrenaline
  Are Atheists Afraid to Join Atheists? Asmodeus 10 3746 October 26, 2024 at 9:09 am
Last Post: Asmodeus
  What does Sam Harris mean by saying that religions are failed sciences? FlatAssembler 21 6397 June 12, 2024 at 10:54 pm
Last Post: awty
  Are god and religion ways of saying "screw you" to nature? ShinyCrystals 18 5033 January 8, 2024 at 12:27 pm
Last Post: Angrboda
  Would this spark a theistic curiousity? Won2blv 7 1942 September 9, 2023 at 4:56 pm
Last Post: Astreja
  Why did God get such a makeover in the New Testament? Hi600 10 3569 April 1, 2023 at 4:48 am
Last Post: Goosebump
  Why God doesn't stop satan? purplepurpose 225 49749 June 28, 2021 at 1:52 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Atheists: Why did female with fat butts and short legs exist? Lambe7 14 4745 July 30, 2020 at 7:17 am
Last Post: Gwaithmir
  Why did I (an atheist) legally change my name to "God"? GodBennett 33 8126 July 17, 2020 at 5:49 am
Last Post: Porcupine



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)