(November 20, 2016 at 11:36 pm)theologian Wrote: Whatever is rational utilizes either the senses, the intellect or both.Just prove any god or gods exist, by means other than bald assertions.
Atheism cannot deny God by using senses. For, to deny something by the use of senses is to search the whole physical reality, just as ruling out that there's no alien is to search all that is searchable which is impossible for us humans. But God, by demonstration of His effects, shows that He is beyond physical reality. Hence, it is the more that God can't be denied by the senses.
Atheism cannot deny God by the intellect. For, whatever we can deny by the use of our intellect, must be defined, just as we deny circle things as square, for the definition of circle is different from the definition of square. But, God can't be define, because if He has definition, He can't be God, because by demonstration of His existence through His effects, He is necessarily Boundless. Hence, God can't be denied by the intellect.
Therefore, if to be rational is able to use senses and our intellect, and that God can't be denied both by the senses and intellect, then atheism is necessarily irrational.
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Atheism is irrational. - by theologian - November 20, 2016 at 11:36 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Foxaèr - November 20, 2016 at 11:38 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by AceBoogie - December 5, 2016 at 1:45 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Angrboda - November 20, 2016 at 11:53 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 20, 2016 at 11:56 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by robvalue - November 21, 2016 at 12:01 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Cyberman - November 21, 2016 at 12:02 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Ravenshire - November 21, 2016 at 2:30 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by TheoneandonlytrueGod - December 6, 2016 at 10:56 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Mister Agenda - December 7, 2016 at 10:57 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Whateverist - December 7, 2016 at 12:29 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by FallentoReason - November 21, 2016 at 12:03 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Astreja - November 21, 2016 at 12:08 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Primordial Bisque - November 21, 2016 at 12:17 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Alex K - November 21, 2016 at 12:32 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by robvalue - November 21, 2016 at 12:35 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Primordial Bisque - November 21, 2016 at 12:46 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by robvalue - November 21, 2016 at 1:11 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Minimalist - November 21, 2016 at 12:42 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Edwardo Piet - November 21, 2016 at 12:48 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by theologian - November 21, 2016 at 1:17 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Foxaèr - November 21, 2016 at 1:20 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Astreja - November 21, 2016 at 1:32 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Ravenshire - November 21, 2016 at 2:34 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 21, 2016 at 4:48 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Cyberman - November 21, 2016 at 2:13 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Primordial Bisque - November 21, 2016 at 4:15 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 21, 2016 at 5:41 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Primordial Bisque - November 21, 2016 at 7:58 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by GUBU - November 22, 2016 at 5:34 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by GUBU - November 22, 2016 at 5:28 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Angrboda - November 21, 2016 at 6:32 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Whateverist - November 21, 2016 at 1:45 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Foxaèr - November 21, 2016 at 1:47 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by robvalue - November 21, 2016 at 1:59 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by theologian - November 21, 2016 at 2:01 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Foxaèr - November 21, 2016 at 2:03 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Astreja - November 21, 2016 at 12:22 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Excited Penguin - November 21, 2016 at 12:35 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Astreja - November 21, 2016 at 2:15 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by robvalue - November 21, 2016 at 2:19 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Jesster - November 21, 2016 at 2:31 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 21, 2016 at 3:49 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Bob Kelso - November 21, 2016 at 4:06 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 21, 2016 at 5:06 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by chimp3 - November 21, 2016 at 6:22 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 21, 2016 at 6:35 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by chimp3 - November 21, 2016 at 6:39 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Faith No More - November 21, 2016 at 7:17 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Tonus - November 21, 2016 at 1:18 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by brewer - November 21, 2016 at 7:41 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Cato - November 21, 2016 at 7:45 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 21, 2016 at 9:16 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by robvalue - November 21, 2016 at 10:17 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by 8BitAtheist - November 21, 2016 at 10:19 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Shell B - November 21, 2016 at 10:23 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by houseofcantor - November 22, 2016 at 8:01 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by zebo-the-fat - November 21, 2016 at 11:22 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Whateverist - November 21, 2016 at 11:26 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 21, 2016 at 1:40 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Ravenshire - November 21, 2016 at 5:58 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Opoponax - November 21, 2016 at 12:45 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Whateverist - November 21, 2016 at 1:21 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Minimalist - November 22, 2016 at 4:05 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Mister Agenda - November 21, 2016 at 1:43 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Excited Penguin - November 21, 2016 at 1:52 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Cyberman - November 21, 2016 at 4:23 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Fake Messiah - November 21, 2016 at 4:24 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by robvalue - November 21, 2016 at 4:52 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by The Joker - November 21, 2016 at 5:26 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 21, 2016 at 8:16 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by robvalue - November 22, 2016 at 4:19 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by robvalue - November 22, 2016 at 7:33 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Tonus - November 22, 2016 at 7:53 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Whateverist - November 22, 2016 at 7:41 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by robvalue - November 22, 2016 at 7:55 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Tonus - November 22, 2016 at 10:01 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 22, 2016 at 3:46 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Simon Moon - November 22, 2016 at 4:02 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 22, 2016 at 4:10 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by LastPoet - November 22, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Whateverist - November 22, 2016 at 4:14 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Simon Moon - November 22, 2016 at 4:24 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 22, 2016 at 5:24 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by GUBU - November 23, 2016 at 6:43 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by GUBU - November 23, 2016 at 6:38 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 23, 2016 at 11:58 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by robvalue - November 22, 2016 at 8:00 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by chimp3 - November 22, 2016 at 8:07 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by houseofcantor - November 22, 2016 at 8:14 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Faith No More - November 22, 2016 at 11:36 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Whateverist - November 22, 2016 at 8:09 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Excited Penguin - November 22, 2016 at 8:14 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by chimp3 - November 22, 2016 at 8:23 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by GUBU - November 22, 2016 at 10:54 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Cyberman - November 22, 2016 at 4:18 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Mister Agenda - November 22, 2016 at 4:29 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Edwardo Piet - November 22, 2016 at 6:28 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Jesster - November 22, 2016 at 6:34 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Edwardo Piet - November 23, 2016 at 5:12 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Gemini - November 23, 2016 at 5:17 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Tonus - November 23, 2016 at 6:09 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by robvalue - November 24, 2016 at 2:21 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by robvalue - November 23, 2016 at 8:07 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 23, 2016 at 11:37 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Astreja - November 23, 2016 at 11:56 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 23, 2016 at 12:46 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 23, 2016 at 1:21 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Mister Agenda - November 23, 2016 at 1:39 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by downbeatplumb - November 23, 2016 at 2:43 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Edwardo Piet - November 23, 2016 at 5:13 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 23, 2016 at 5:57 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 23, 2016 at 7:30 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Whateverist - November 24, 2016 at 2:55 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 28, 2016 at 10:49 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by GUBU - November 24, 2016 at 5:45 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Edwardo Piet - November 23, 2016 at 5:19 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Asmodee - November 30, 2016 at 1:18 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 30, 2016 at 4:02 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Asmodee - November 30, 2016 at 6:50 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Neo-Scholastic - November 30, 2016 at 7:05 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Asmodee - December 2, 2016 at 12:24 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Ravenshire - December 7, 2016 at 3:10 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Whateverist - December 3, 2016 at 11:40 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Neo-Scholastic - December 2, 2016 at 1:55 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Asmodee - December 5, 2016 at 10:54 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Neo-Scholastic - December 7, 2016 at 10:47 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Asmodee - December 7, 2016 at 12:22 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Neo-Scholastic - December 7, 2016 at 1:39 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Asmodee - December 9, 2016 at 1:04 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Neo-Scholastic - December 14, 2016 at 6:08 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Asmodee - December 15, 2016 at 4:56 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by GUBU - December 7, 2016 at 8:32 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Fireball - December 7, 2016 at 11:11 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by downbeatplumb - December 3, 2016 at 11:21 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Tonus - December 3, 2016 at 11:32 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by chimp3 - December 3, 2016 at 3:07 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by dyresand - December 5, 2016 at 2:36 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Cyberman - December 7, 2016 at 8:58 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2016 at 2:51 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Simon Moon - December 7, 2016 at 4:04 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Neo-Scholastic - December 7, 2016 at 4:14 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Simon Moon - December 7, 2016 at 4:18 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Neo-Scholastic - December 7, 2016 at 4:45 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Tonus - December 7, 2016 at 5:02 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Simon Moon - December 7, 2016 at 5:29 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2016 at 4:15 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2016 at 4:24 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2016 at 4:47 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Cecelia - December 7, 2016 at 6:12 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by Simon Moon - December 7, 2016 at 7:16 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by maestroanth - December 10, 2016 at 5:00 am
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by comet - December 13, 2016 at 8:32 pm
RE: Atheism is irrational. - by comet - December 14, 2016 at 9:04 pm
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