RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
November 23, 2016 at 7:12 pm
(November 23, 2016 at 5:14 pm)The Joker Wrote: Who is stopping you? Go ahead, try to debunk each one if you can.
First argument (Argument from motion): No way of determining if any "first mover" was a sentient being.
Even if you do manage to demonstrate sentience and purpose in a hypothetical "first mover," you then have two more problems:
- On what grounds are you exempting the hypothetical being from having a "mover" (either sentient or insentient) of its own? "It was always there" doesn't cut it.
- Given that we are discussing a hypothetical being that supposedly created the matter/energy of this universe, and supposedly from nothing, how did this being perform any actions at all unless energy already existed?
Quote:Therefore it is necessary to arrive at a first mover, put in motion by no other; and this everyone understands to be God.
"This everyone understands to be God" is an outright lie, as there are quite a few people who do not accept this particular wild, unjustified leap.
Way #1 rejected.