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☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
(November 23, 2016 at 5:14 pm)The Joker Wrote: Who is stopping you? Go ahead, try to debunk each one if you can.Big Grin

First argument (Argument from motion):  No way of determining if any "first mover" was a sentient being.

Even if you do manage to demonstrate sentience and purpose in a hypothetical "first mover," you then have two more problems:

  1. On what grounds are you exempting the hypothetical being from having a "mover" (either sentient or insentient) of its own?  "It was always there" doesn't cut it.
  2. Given that we are discussing a hypothetical being that supposedly created the matter/energy of this universe, and supposedly from nothing, how did this being perform any actions at all unless energy already existed?
The conclusion of the first way also fails due to a non sequitur:


Quote:Therefore it is necessary to arrive at a first mover, put in motion by no other; and this everyone understands to be God.

"This everyone understands to be God" is an outright lie, as there are quite a few people who do not accept this particular wild, unjustified leap.

Way #1 rejected.
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RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it" - by Astreja - November 23, 2016 at 7:12 pm

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