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Who is to blame.
RE: Who is to blame.
The way I would apportion blame (in order):

1) The republitraitor party. They were the ones who decided to go full nazi this election. They were the ones who decided to strip 7 million US citizens of their fundamental right to vote. They were the ones who decided to close polling stations, use deliberately unsafe voting machines, not have an audit trail of votes and use illegal Jim Crow laws targeted to further disenfranchise Democrat leaning demographics. Frankly the biggest reason the obersturmbanngroppenfuhrer is in is because the republican party decided that this was the year they could safely drop the pretence of being a pro-United States entity.
2) The media, they hit Hillary hard all throughout the campaign, yet gave the obersturmbanngroppenfuhrer a free ride essentially until October when the Washington Post finally found their collective balls down the back of the sofa and pushed through the sexual assault confession. Now, I agree that Hillary Clinton should have been raked over the coals for anything she did wrong, but, frankly, if they hit Drumpfuck as hard as they hit her, there's no way they should have won. But because he was easy ratings and newspaper sales to them, they held off until the very last minute before revealing what he was a tax evading, misogynist, racist, America hating sexual pervert. And that played into the message that he was peddling all along, that there was this giant conspiracy (lead by the jews, natch) to do him down.
3) Racist and misogynist evangelical and catholic voters (why yes Drich, Catholic Lady, Pete Rose and Chad Wooters, I am looking at all of you), who decided that the false promise of a theocratic dictatorship was enough reason to vote the nazi candidate.
4) And four the DNC themselves, for two reasons, a) they didn't do anything to challenge the vote stealing detailed in 1) above. When laws were struck down it was charitable and civil rights groups which fought them, when polling booths were closed Democrats quietly assented and so on. The Democrat party would rather be (as I've said before) the second party of big business than the first party of the American people. B) Hillary Clinton was the wrong candidate. Granted if the the above actually went the right way (i.e. if the election were free and fair, and if more people were willing to vote in the best interests of the nation as a whole rather than on racism and misogyny) she'd have won 538 to 0. But against any competent and mainstreamish republican she'd have lost the fair fight, because what the people want is a different way of working, plain and simple.
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