wallym Wrote:1) Empathy has two applications. There's understanding how and why someone feels a certain way by looking at things from their perspective. That I enjoy doing, and partake in it as sincerely and fully as possible. And then there's caring about those people/feelings, which I don't really do.
Empathy is understanding and sharing other people's feelings. As a sociopath, you're not capable of understanding why your comprehension of other people's feelings is incomplete. What you're doing is intellectually mimicking a capacity you don't possess, at least not in full measure. Not your fault, you have bad wiring. I don't blame someone who's color blind for not being able to see nuance I can, you're in the same situation. I think you're probably high-functioning, like someone who is only partially color blind.
wallym Wrote:2) When the tangent started, the tangent wasn't about what we should do. The tangent was about how I described what people do. I said the reason arguments about refugees never go anywhere, is because people disagree on human life being valuable. If you don't believe human life is valuable, then you can just kill the people in Aleppo, and that's fine.
Folks didn't like that, because they personally don't think it's fine, and if they don't personally think it's fine, thems the rules for everything in the universe for all time. I disagreed.
It's not a tangent. It's the topic. Someone said we ought to keep refugees out. Others say they ought to let them in. You say it's fine to kill people if that's your groove. Other people disagree, and possibly because you're a sociopath, you don't get why.
wallym Wrote:I kept trying to show how limited the scope of people's moral objections were via examples (in time and circumstance), but that's when everyone kept crying "Historical Fallacy" even though, I wasn't claiming anything was right or wrong. Just that their moral objections were and continue to be mostly irrelevant to almost everything.
If you're not claiming anything is right or wrong, that's the tangent (and irrelevant), because this thread is about what's right or wrong.
wallym Wrote:What's crazy, is a big part of this forum, is just a big fuck you to the moral objections of religious folk. Religious people say "You shouldn't do that!" And atheists say, "Fuck off. It's fine, because you're moral objections don't dictate our behavior." It's almost creepy how exactly the same the two things are, and nobody seems to see it. It's, frankly, surreal.
There's a big difference between 'You shouldn't do that because my scriptures say so' and 'You shouldn't do that because people will die because of it'.
wallym Wrote:3) I've seen you on here plenty. The depression thing is anecdotal, at the same time, I've seen a couple times when someone posts "I'm depressed" and people pile into that thread like a clown car with their own "I'm depressed too" stories.
Funny how people who have the experience to empathize with someone's situation are the ones to chime in on those threads, eh? And are you separating the 'I'm depressed' comments from the 'I've been depressed' comments?
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
