(December 6, 2016 at 10:56 pm)Omnibus E Plrus Nhilist Wrote:(November 21, 2016 at 12:02 am)Stimbo Wrote: Atheism doesn't "deny god". It is a specialized subset of skepticism and critical thinking; the position of not automatically accepting theistic claims. Why do so many theists have trouble with such a simple concept?
I "Deny God" period. I can't for the life of me conceive of a universe created by some mystical being. No arguments by "religious" people can convince me that that life is not "an accident". I believe that in this universe at least, the laws of physics actually require the combination of particals that eventually result in "life" i.e. the ability to reproduce itself
So in addition to being one who does not believe in gods you are apparently someone who possesses a very clear idea of what would constitute a "god", along with a number of opinions which would seemingly weigh on a god so defined. That's nice.
I share your incredulity toward the notion of a cosmic watch maker and feel the same way about an 'afterlife' and the 'supernatural' category. All are ridiculous notions. But when you deny the easy stuff you haven't thereby denied every theist's god.
It's being such an ill defined term is the best reason not to make blanket statements regarding these slippery 'gods'.
(December 6, 2016 at 10:56 pm)Omnibus E Plrus Nhilist Wrote: To me accepting a "God or Gods" is stupid. Other than "belief" there is no proof that a god or gods exist, period. Just because man has for centuries insisted that some supreme being "caused" the universe doesn't mean some sort of "prime mover" actually invented/created the universe and us. I find nothing wrong nor inconsistent with the idea that life is anything other than the combination of the resources found in the universe.
So don't accept them. Agnostic atheists likewise do not accept them. The rest of what you say here reflects things you've probably heard particular theists say. But none of them speaks for all of them, so refuting one does nothing against the others. But by all means take them all on if you're motivated and have time to ask each and every theist for his beliefs.