RE: What Trump supporters and Christians have in common
December 13, 2016 at 3:19 pm
(This post was last modified: December 13, 2016 at 3:20 pm by SteelCurtain.)
Here's the thing, though. Can we (I mean liberals/progressives) win elections when we frame everyone else as morons? We are just as complicit as everyone else in creating an us vs. them binary. I mean, the tiniest, internetiest portion of Trump's base are the ones who are buying into the conspiracy theories and other idiocy. The average Trump supporter isn't going to rallies and cheering when he basically lies and misrepresents shit. Some people held their nose and voted for him just like I held my nose and voted for Hillary. Because the policies, to me, are more important than the fucking shitty ass candidate.
The same can be said of avid supporters of any candidate. They will hear what they want to hear. I think a lot of the die hard Bernie supporters were the same way. He's going to wipe out my student debt! He's going to make healthcare free for all! He's going to end lobbying and money in politics! No, he wasn't. But a lot of us heard that and got super excited because those issues are important to us, even if they were unrealistic. It's not the same as the racism and populism that Trump espouses, but it is there nonetheless.
I just don't trust liberals to vote, because most are going to have no change in their lives regardless of who is in office. By and large they say the social issues are important to them, but most are never going to have/need an abortion, most are not members of the LGBT community, most live in places where idiots with AR-15s at the local Sonic is not an issue, and therefore most are vocal supporters of those issues, but when push comes to shove, they don't care enough to vote.
So when we create this dichotomy where everyone who voted for Trump is a cretinous moron, we shore up the phenomena where even though they may be second guessing, they dig in and double down. Conservatives fucking vote. They have that going for them in spades. They will continue to win gubernatorial elections and congressional elections because liberals and progressives don't fucking care enough to be interested in getting off their asses. That is galling to me.
The same can be said of avid supporters of any candidate. They will hear what they want to hear. I think a lot of the die hard Bernie supporters were the same way. He's going to wipe out my student debt! He's going to make healthcare free for all! He's going to end lobbying and money in politics! No, he wasn't. But a lot of us heard that and got super excited because those issues are important to us, even if they were unrealistic. It's not the same as the racism and populism that Trump espouses, but it is there nonetheless.
I just don't trust liberals to vote, because most are going to have no change in their lives regardless of who is in office. By and large they say the social issues are important to them, but most are never going to have/need an abortion, most are not members of the LGBT community, most live in places where idiots with AR-15s at the local Sonic is not an issue, and therefore most are vocal supporters of those issues, but when push comes to shove, they don't care enough to vote.
So when we create this dichotomy where everyone who voted for Trump is a cretinous moron, we shore up the phenomena where even though they may be second guessing, they dig in and double down. Conservatives fucking vote. They have that going for them in spades. They will continue to win gubernatorial elections and congressional elections because liberals and progressives don't fucking care enough to be interested in getting off their asses. That is galling to me.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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