Theists: How can predetermined fate and free will coexist?

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They can't. It's bollocks.

But since we're talking about something that isn't yet in any way manifest or testable, people can make up whatever they want about it. My pet dragon is both 6 feet tall and 10 feet tall! What do you mean that doesn't make sense or satisfy logic? I don't care! You can't see it, so you can't prove it isn't!

The only fix here is that we make choices, but God then nullifies any importance they have by intervening to return things back to his "plan". If he doesn't intervene, then we can clearly thwart his plan.

It seems pretty clear that even this is a pretty lame excuse though. For example, what fate does God have for me? Does it involve living past today? If so, do I have the free will to kill myself?

Precognition and free will are contradictory and no amount of screaming and thrashing about will change that. If God is outside of our time, then he instantly knows absolutely everything that will happen before any of us make a "choice". So there are no choices. It must all happen according to his knowledge; or else he is wrong. If he is outside all time, he can't do anything. (He could decide to watch our time pass at whatever speed he wanted, of course. Or move it back and forward. Whatever. What's the point of any of this? How bored is he?)

I made a video about this a while ago.