RE: Theists: How can predetermined fate and free will coexist?
December 18, 2016 at 5:36 pm
(This post was last modified: December 18, 2016 at 5:37 pm by robvalue.)
(December 18, 2016 at 5:31 pm)Ignorant Wrote:(December 18, 2016 at 12:18 am)robvalue Wrote: Still no counters to my envelope scenario.
(I put an envelope in your pocket, containing a note that you will go through the red door, although you haven't seen it. I know this is true, because I have precognition. Can you choose to go through the blue door?)
Does the note mean that I will choose to go through the red door once I see it?
Well, if you looked at it before you chose, then yeah. You'd have to "choose" to go through the red door. That's what I'm suggesting. It's not a real choice. If you instead had the ability to go through the blue door, this makes my prediction wrong. But it can't be wrong. If you can explain how you could choose to go through the blue door, I'd be interested. It doesn't matter if you look before or after you've made your "choice".
As I wrote in a previous post, the envelope is just an extension of the prediction, cementing the fact that it's a constant prediction that can be stated before the event. Not some undetermined squiggle which just copies outcomes, like some people seem to think (not saying you do).
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