(December 18, 2016 at 4:51 pm)robvalue Wrote:(December 18, 2016 at 2:44 pm)wallym Wrote: Yes, I could have chosen the blue door, and you would have had to put a note in my pocket saying I go through the blue door. It is my choice that is controlling your actions, not the other way around.
(If I believed in such at thing)
But I didn't, I knew you'd go through the red door. I'd seen it in advance, and noted this inside the envelope. That is the scenario. Given that this is the case, can you choose go through the blue door?
If your actions control my "precognition", then it's not precognition at all. If my prediction isn't determined until after the event, it's not even a prediction.
The envelope is just a way of demonstrating the fact that a prediction is constant. It can be noted before the event. It just represents the knowledge. I get the feeling some people think a prediction can change over time.
Once you start seeing the future, you can't think of time as linear anymore.
What we do know:
1) You aren't choosing what color door you write down. You are simply recording the happenings of a future event you're magically witnessing in present time.
2) During the future event that you witnessed, we have no reason to believe I wasn't free to choose either door.
While it seems like things are happening A-B-C, the nature of 'seeing the future' makes them A-C-B-C. C being my choice of door, and B being your recording of it. Somehow you'd be experiencing C out of linear time. You're crossing a single point in time twice. You're not causing me to choose red the second time. There is no second time. It is a single event in time that you are experiencing twice.