(December 26, 2016 at 7:04 pm)comet Wrote:(December 26, 2016 at 5:33 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Long before Christopher Columbus, the people of Aristotle’s time knew the Earth is round. So Augustine warned about the dangers of being too curious about the workings of the cosmos.
The church has always been the enemy of science because they know biblical creation bears not the slightest resemblance to the universe we live in.
For hundreds of years, the church plunged Europe into what is known as the Dark Ages. During the age of Enlightenment, brave scientists risked life and limb to bring the world out of this darkness.
Today scientists have the freedom to be honest about the discrepancies between facts and faith, without having to fear for their lives. That you find this frustrating is not surprising.
not the catholic church. its slow to change, but it changes. Galaleo rejection was more about how he went about it then the observations. The church now accepts we go around the sun and that there was a big bang. they even accept qm and Eisenstein. Sure, they have to get rid of the magic.
Do you accept that we are part of a larger, more complex system, that probably is life? or not?
I mean because "science" shows we are.
And if science says one thing and religion says something else (let's not leave all the protestants, Muslims, Jews and other non Abrahamic religions) then the op's attempts to sound reasonable are anything but. Especially with religionists fighting to have their take on creation taught in school as if it were a fact equal to what science has proven.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.